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Title: Okay time to leak or announce some NY may dates....
Post by: Klout on April 16, 2006, 11:19:22 am
steffmo you can start it off please :biggrin:
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Post by: bdfreetuna on April 16, 2006, 11:39:13 am
Yeah I heard they were gonna play Butterfield and Pearl Street a couple times each :D

I am curious what\'s going down after the midwest run though.. especially since I\'m not able to make it to as many shows this month as I hoped (the officer who made that possible holds a special place in my heart)
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Post by: Klout on April 16, 2006, 11:44:53 am
Electric company perhaps? ALbany is over due as well. maybe another nyc date?
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Post by: davepeck on April 16, 2006, 11:54:48 am
Nyc 5/13
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Post by: wiredchicken on April 16, 2006, 12:11:14 pm
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ALbany is over due as well. maybe another nyc date?


is Valentine\'s in Fredonia, not considered albany?  or is this a dif Valentine\'s altogether?

also, nyc is announced.  now i need NJ and Philly dates.
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Post by: davepeck on April 16, 2006, 12:14:35 pm
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ALbany is over due as well. maybe another nyc date?


is Valentine\'s in Fredonia, not considered albany?  or is this a dif Valentine\'s altogether?


different one.. way west...
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Post by: wiredchicken on April 16, 2006, 12:17:23 pm
gotcha.  didnt bother to look at maps or anything.  you get my response PM yesterday, peck?
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Post by: davepeck on April 16, 2006, 12:22:27 pm
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gotcha.  didnt bother to look at maps or anything.  you get my response PM yesterday, peck?


whoops, on it.. sorry, i suck at teh internet..
Title: Okay time to leak or announce some NY may dates....
Post by: Klout on April 16, 2006, 12:26:46 pm
ok how bout some real leaks now. whos seen the master list?
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Post by: WALSH on April 16, 2006, 12:34:20 pm
How about they announce the Summer tour???  How are we two weeks out of May and there are no June dates?  They really need to make a concerted effort to get dates out quicker, make it easier for the fans to get plans in order.  I know heads like Whineberg need at least a month notice and I think I remember Paul needing even more, Spaceman too.  I usually need a month also, although I can usually pull some strings.
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Post by: wiredchicken on April 16, 2006, 12:39:32 pm
and by \'usually pull some strings\' you mean blow your boss real quick ??? ;)

be nice to see some summer dates announced.  1000th show at Toad\'s in June is a def, right?
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Post by: Steffmo on April 16, 2006, 02:10:52 pm
I don\'t have too much for you right now....but it should firm up this week.  Philly....there is a radius clause due to Big Wuli fest, so we might not get there til after that.  Same with NYC.....thae Coda date on the 13th means we can\'t do another NYC.  So I would thin upstate NY, other New England stuff.  The 1000 date at Toads is a go i believe.

Right now the BIG push is to settle the festival stuff because we have to route around it.  there are soooo many more bands trying to jump on these fests now that the general rock world is getting hip to it that the slots are being filled later than ever.  I know its annoying to you....but I assure you its WAY more annoying to us.  Unfortunately, we don\'t book the bands.

Not to get ahead of ourselves, and it is probably more for next year, but we hope to get some of the records out in Europe and get over there.  If we can profitably spend a month over there, it becomes easier to keep the bands money up here, which becomes critical to stability.
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Post by: wiredchicken on April 16, 2006, 02:15:39 pm
well, if you need ideas of places to play in NJ other than Mexicali or the Pony let me know.  I do most promo for the Pony\'s jamband schedule.  talked to Kyle last week about getting the guys back and hesaid the dates dont seem to work a lot.  i told him to make it work.  The Saint in Asbury Parkis another Option. not as big as the Pony but tons of history and only  few blocks away.  moe., SCI, the Biscuits all started out at teh Saint.  just an idea.
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Post by: FreeSpirit on April 16, 2006, 03:06:55 pm
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The 1000 date at Toads is a go i believe.:thumbsup:

:yay:

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Not to get ahead of ourselves, and it is probably more for next year, but we hope to get some of the records out in Europe and get over there. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

:wave: I\'d def love a Europe run for the band (and for me!)
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Post by: Klout on April 16, 2006, 03:18:14 pm
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 So I would thin upstate NY, other New England stuff.  



ok that sound slike potentially good news
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Post by: derickw on April 16, 2006, 04:48:29 pm
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The 1000 date at Toads is a go i believe.:thumbsup:

:yay:

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Not to get ahead of ourselves, and it is probably more for next year, but we hope to get some of the records out in Europe and get over there. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

:wave: I\'d def love a Europe run for the band (and for me!)


:that:

Jam in the Dam.... make it happen. now that would be a traveling circus
Title: Okay time to leak or announce some NY may dates....
Post by: Todd on April 16, 2006, 06:41:56 pm
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The 1000 date at Toads is a go i believe.:thumbsup:

:yay:

Quote from: Steffmo
Not to get ahead of ourselves, and it is probably more for next year, but we hope to get some of the records out in Europe and get over there. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

:wave: I\'d def love a Europe run for the band (and for me!)


:that:

Jam in the Dam.... make it happen. now that would be a traveling circus

:that:
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Post by: wiredchicken on April 16, 2006, 06:59:45 pm
oh, any chance of another Rocksoff boastcruise in NYC?
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Post by: Klout on April 16, 2006, 07:25:12 pm
doubtful. I dont think it was very easy for the boys to play under those conditions
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Post by: Todd on April 16, 2006, 08:11:42 pm
The bigger boat doesn\'t rock as much as the one they played on. Doubtful they would get booked on the big one this summer though.
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Post by: derickw on April 17, 2006, 08:39:05 am
i saw Badfish on the bigger boat, it was pretty sick. it\'s like a big bowl with a balcony that wraps around. we would have to guarantee selling out the boat in order to get that one and that mean presale tickets
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Post by: wiredchicken on April 17, 2006, 10:27:50 am
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doubtful. I dont think it was very easy for the boys to play under those conditions


please.  some bands do it everysummer.  the small boat is small, but still.  the "conditions" arent that bad.
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Post by: Spacey on April 17, 2006, 10:52:27 am
we had a power outage last year, just as the show began. it sucked and wasted about 10-15 minutes but I\'d say that was the only bad thing, that and $5 cans of Buds.
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Post by: wiredchicken on April 17, 2006, 10:56:37 am
jeff.  UM had a power outage too when they played.  par for the course. shit happens.  

the thing that pisses me off is everyone thinks the band is too good to play these types of things.  i see it all the time.  while they may be "too good" musically, they arent "too good" at drawig crowds to places like NYC and NJ.  they need everchance they get, and the boatcruise\'s are just plain fun.  

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that and $5 cans of Buds.


its NYC, guy. what do you expect?
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Post by: Todd on April 17, 2006, 11:20:28 am
I forget who, but one, maybe more, of the band members was feeling sick from being on the boat for a few hours before fan boarding. That and it must be hard as hell to play guitar while swaying side to side like a drunken sailor.
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Post by: Me! on April 17, 2006, 11:26:09 am
I\'ve seen hinm swaying playing guitar on solid land and still sound kick ass.  I\'m pretty sure it was Adj that wasn\'t feeling well but I\'m not positive either
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Post by: Spacey on April 17, 2006, 11:37:01 am
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jeff.  UM had a power outage too when they played.  par for the course. shit happens.  

the thing that pisses me off is everyone thinks the band is too good to play these types of things.  i see it all the time.  while they may be "too good" musically, they arent "too good" at drawig crowds to places like NYC and NJ.  they need everchance they get, and the boatcruise\'s are just plain fun.  


considering those were the only two downfalls, I\'d say do it again. This time they know what to expect and hopefully can make adjustments.

I don\'t think anyone really thinks they are "too good" to play Rocks Off, if they do, then they are flying on a much higher cloud than I.

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that and $5 cans of Buds.


its NYC, guy. what do you expect?


BYOB?
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Post by: davepeck on April 17, 2006, 12:00:04 pm
Quote from: WALSH
How about they announce the Summer tour???  How are we two weeks out of May and there are no June dates?  They really need to make a concerted effort to get dates out quicker, make it easier for the fans to get plans in order.


this is an excellent point. something really needs to be done about this. it\'s the reason i didn\'t make it out west for any shows, and i wanted badly to get out there..

prime example - by the way, there\'s a show in Bloomington, Indiana (where?) next Wednesday.. 9 days from now.. i just found out about it, so it\'s here now.. but it\'s not on the band\'s official site, not on the venue\'s site, and it\'s not on jambase. so unless you know to go to crescendoartists.com, you\'re not gonna know about this show.. how much promotion is going to be done for this show in 9 days?

i\'m glad they\'re playing more, but people need to know when they\'re playing ahead of time..
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Post by: wiredchicken on April 17, 2006, 12:03:00 pm
great point, peck.  get all these shows announced at the same damn time. or close to. instead of peicing togethere a tour with 9days notice.  my buddy thats moving to bllomington next week should be happy, though :)
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Post by: Klout on April 17, 2006, 12:23:59 pm
I agree. Dates need to be announced sooner so people can make plans.

I was going to fly out to colorado for the steamboat run but tickets were 400 a week after the shows were announced.
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Post by: Spacey on April 17, 2006, 12:33:38 pm
100% agree with all of you about announcing earlier dates.

Prime examples of lack of promotion are everywhere and with every show. I hate to say it, but I believe that .info has been responsible for promotion of every show since they returned to CT.

I got a message from someone in Burlington who is still waiting for flyers and really wanted to help out. Whether or not it promotion needed to get done in Burlington, it still should be happening.

FYI, myspace has every date that the band has scheduled. I constantly look at .info, crescendo and .net for dates. In the future, check out the myspace tour dates if you want. On the same note, I feel that by putting them up there and 3 days later learning about a cancelled show is a waste of time.

Really need a buffer zone.
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Post by: Todd on April 17, 2006, 02:11:15 pm
Sing along now.....M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-...........
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Post by: Me! on April 17, 2006, 02:14:09 pm
I forget, and I dont\' feel like searching for it and it\'s not on the calendar, when is the Toad\'s place 1000th show??
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Post by: Spacey on April 17, 2006, 02:17:59 pm
don\'t think a date has been finalized.
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Post by: Todd on April 17, 2006, 02:18:28 pm
Don\'t think the date has been firmed up yet. I heard a tentative, but it\'s subject to change.
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Post by: Klout on April 17, 2006, 02:25:09 pm
Back to the topic of the thread.... HOW BOUT A BEARDSLEE BUST OUT?
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Post by: Spacey on April 17, 2006, 02:34:59 pm
that\'s a good idea.
Friday the 26th would work. Then it would be off to Sterling Stage and then down to Strange Creek camp.

do it! and I will take Saturday off and do the 3 night run, but confirmation needed soon!
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Post by: wiredchicken on April 17, 2006, 02:57:52 pm
it hink the tenative for Toads is the 2nd sat of June, no?
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Post by: Klout on April 17, 2006, 03:03:34 pm
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that\'s a good idea.
Friday the 26th would work. Then it would be off to Sterling Stage!



i think thats what they did last year wasnt it?
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Post by: sconnie4satan on April 17, 2006, 03:43:02 pm
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it hink the tenative for Toads is the 2nd sat of June, no?


already??  I thought it would be a little later in the summer...no?
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Post by: RadicalRich1138 on April 17, 2006, 03:47:58 pm
@ Daniel street i def. remember timmy saying june
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Post by: Buquebus on April 17, 2006, 04:05:39 pm
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that\'s a good idea.
Friday the 26th would work. Then it would be off to Sterling Stage!



i think thats what they did last year wasnt it?

great three days there.  they let you camp at beardslee, and it really is a big free for all, I\'d be down to do it again, but more people should come out and rage... it was funny grilling hot dogs all wasted after the show for like Timmy, Princess Caspian, Dobz, mcajam and mamalaka.. in what seemed like a pretty big field, with two or three tents set up.  oh yah- there was a shithoused Rujah spotting! :disco: :chug: :disco:
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Post by: Mamalakabubadaya on April 17, 2006, 04:16:58 pm
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great three days there.  they let you camp at beardslee, and it really is a big free for all, I\'d be down to do it again, but more people should come out and rage... it was funny grilling hot dogs all wasted after the show for like Timmy, Princess Caspian, Dobz, mcajam and mamalaka.. in what seemed like a pretty big field, with two or three tents set up.  oh yah- there was a shithoused Rujah spotting! :disco: :chug: :disco:

yeah rujah was definitely about to puke on our tent :wah:
definitely lots of fun that night..i would love to do the memorial day run again this year.
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Post by: derickw on April 17, 2006, 04:31:36 pm
i missed the Memorial Weekend run last year but hope to make up for it this year
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Post by: Todd on April 17, 2006, 04:35:06 pm
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it hink the tenative for Toads is the 2nd sat of June, no?

yes, I do believe
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Post by: Spacey on April 17, 2006, 04:47:15 pm
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it hink the tenative for Toads is the 2nd sat of June, no?

yes, I do believe



if this is true, then I really need to take 6/3 off from work. If I can\'t then they should definitely hold off till the next day for this show.

Again, early June seems to early for a 1000th show.
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Post by: Giavanna on April 17, 2006, 04:51:18 pm
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it hink the tenative for Toads is the 2nd sat of June, no?

yes, I do believe



if this is true, then I really need to take 6/3 off from work. If I can\'t then they should definitely hold off till the next day for this show.

Again, early June seems to early for a 1000th show.


It does say 2nd Sat of June not 2nd of June meaning 6/10 right????
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Post by: wiredchicken on April 17, 2006, 04:57:51 pm
something like 6.10 or 6.17 is what i thought i had heard......
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Post by: Spacey on April 17, 2006, 05:53:21 pm
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it hink the tenative for Toads is the 2nd sat of June, no?

yes, I do believe



if this is true, then I really need to take 6/3 off from work. If I can\'t then they should definitely hold off till the next day for this show.

Again, early June seems to early for a 1000th show.


It does say 2nd Sat of June not 2nd of June meaning 6/10 right????


lol

it sure does. sometimes the eyes see something the mind doesn\'t pick up on. Now that you made it clear, I do see it being possible, thanks.
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Post by: peaches626 on April 17, 2006, 06:32:55 pm
june 26th would be a great date in my mind..... dank birthday show for me??????????:disco:
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Post by: bdfreetuna on April 17, 2006, 08:10:34 pm
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100% agree with all of you about announcing earlier dates.

Prime examples of lack of promotion are everywhere and with every show. I hate to say it, but I believe that .info has been responsible for promotion of every show since they returned to CT.


It does seem like it. I used to be totally fine with this, when I went to college and could recruit several new heads for most of the PB/Breakfast shows I went to. I figured if each SER fan like myself brought along a few people the scene would gradually blossom.

However, what I\'ve seen is pretty modest growth since 2002. And now its oh-six and I\'m not in school any more and I live up in the woods and its hard as shit to get people to go to a Breakfast show with me. And many of these shows are a 2-3-4 hour drive for me so going there in advance to paste fliers up isn\'t an option.

Basically I\'m no longer able to do what I used to consider "my part" promoting the band-- but I\'m down with Breakfast more than I\'ve ever been so I get kind of frustrated on behalf of the band, when, for example, I drive to Syracuse from Mass with 1 other person for a 2 night run, and see that little Mezzanotte Lounge isn\'t nearly as packed as it should be.

My question is, isn\'t somebody getting paid to do promotion?

If so, shows being announced just over a week before they happen should not happen. Like it\'s been pointed out.. SER fans are willing to make the drive! But we also need to be able to plan ahead.

If shows exist but aren\'t posted on .NET, .INFO, and Jambase that\'s just bad coordination. I used to only look on Jambase for a couple years to see when shows were going on, and I bet plenty of people still do.

There was a time when I thought this music would sell its self. Apparently that\'s not the case, even as Breakfast is 10x nastier now than they were when I started catching shows.

/rant.
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Post by: chooglincharley on April 17, 2006, 09:08:01 pm
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So I would thin upstate NY


what do you consider upstate ny?