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Breakfast Babble => Food For Thought => 2007 => Topic started by: davepeck on May 19, 2007, 02:23:04 am
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I: jam > Puppetry, Episode 1 (Happy) > No Regret > Space City Affair > Honey Butter, Rufus > Dimension 5
II: jam > Hard Luck Harry > Bugs, Good Things* > Beef Barley*
* with Matt Oestreicher on keyboards.
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Matt sitting in on Good Things & Beef Barley **ROCKED!!!***
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how was the turnout?
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Matt on two songs? Signs of "Good Things" to come, I\'m sure!!!
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how was the turnout?
Pretty Fair turn out...nothing crazy..
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Guessing about 300-400 peeps. Good show, the boys played hard. Webster still sucks. Sound just doesn\'t cut it. The keys would have been good in Bugs.
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i believe the second sete was supposed to include mooboos voodoo and the scheme.
not sure why they had to call it quits at 1.
sick lights last night.
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Guessing about 300-400 peeps.
not sure of an \'official\' number, but i think that\'s REALLY generous.
not sure why they had to call it quits at 1.
i thought the webster pulled the plug because of the lack of attendance. correct me if i\'m wrong..
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OK, i have been seeing music for like 11 or so years and never have i seen a show cut short for lack of attendance, EVER. If that was the case as i was told, there is no excuse what-so-ever. The fuckin show and playing was relentless as Pitchy put it, and who the hell even knows what coulda been for the rest of the show. I was told of the songs that weren\'t played and was not happy considering I\'ve been spoiled the last month seeing them so damn often and because they wont be around for a while. fuck the Webster. i bet we could ask anyone random person from ct who sees music no matter what kind, what they think of the Webster and i guarantee they will all say it sucks. i don\'t know why, but the place blows. i wont be back. other than that the playing was astounding, and if i used the word "ser" i would describe it that way. see ya.
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honestly,i dont think theres anything wrong with the webster.sure it has a bad reputation,but i looked around for something to complain about and couldnt find anything.
sure it would have been a better show if there was another 1000 folks there,but thats neither here nor there.
the band played hard.
a few sloppy transitions but all in all i thought it was a wellplayed show.
matty on keys is becoming more and more fun.
imagine a show with puppetry/rufus/eppie2/hardluck/scheme...
that would suck..
NOT!
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I for a fact was talking to the Webster "stage crew" after we played and they even said they where going to make sure each set was only 60 min long because they bar wasn\'t getting enough money....LAME...
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steve,i walked in during the tailend of your set.
sounded pretty deece cept for the bass player..
doh!
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sick lights last night.
Yes! Here\'s a couple from last night:
(http://www.thebreakfast.net/images/pictures/2007-05-18/Breakfast_2007-05-18_1911.jpg)
(http://www.thebreakfast.net/images/pictures/2007-05-18/Breakfast_2007-05-18_1941.jpg)
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how was the turnout?
steve,i walked in during the tailend of your set.
sounded pretty deece cept for the bass player..
doh!
lol...I now know the reason why so many bands hate playing the webster. The monitors near me had none of my bass in the mix, they didn\'t even mic my cab and went direct in instead. I heard not one note of what I played...my ears are still ringing.
conisdering, it went semi well.
The Breakfast was real tight. Timmy was tearing it up! Lights were sick.
Freddie when ya get a chance check us out in Branford or somthing.
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im in branstock as we speak.
whens something comin up?
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im in branstock as we speak.
whens something comin up?
Next Sat. @ The Puppet House, we go on @ 9:30pm. We play really well there. If your around swing by.
I was going to say Hi last night but did\'t see you after I came back in.
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Ugh. Stupid Webster.
Decent show. Had a good time.
Lights looked awesome.
Fuck that place.
Rough ride home.
That is all.
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steve,just remind me..
you know how it is.
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steve,just remind me..
you know how it is.
Of course. No worries the longer it takes you to see us the better we\'ll be!
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cool.
ill talk to ya in about a year then.by then you guys should be ser..
on a sidenote,i did hear a few complaints about your set being onbearably loud.did u hear anything like that?
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cool.
ill talk to ya in about a year then.by then you guys should be ser..
on a sidenote,i did hear a few complaints about your set being onbearably loud.did u hear anything like that?
Yeah that was a huge problem, thus me now SER. beging deaf. My head is still pounding, pretty pianfull, and it was all the sound guys, me and the guitar player were told to put our volume to one.
If I had to play a place like that again tonight I don\'t think I could handle it.
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i heard the band complaining about sound-issues as well.
youd think the webster would have this problem under control.its not like HUGE bands dont play there.
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i heard the band complaining about sound-issues as well.
youd think the webster would have this problem under control.its not like HUGE bands dont play there.
I think the only really "good" sounding shows I have seen there have been really "big" rock bands and acts where most of the music is acoustic.
If I had known how bad the sound was on stage I would have worn ear plugs.
Also having absolutly no sound check for any other band besides the opening act doesn\'t help. And even The Breakfast\'s sound check wasn\'t that great imo. The way the set the levels sucks.
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well,either way,i thought the night was pretty good.
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i heard the band complaining about sound-issues as well.
youd think the webster would have this problem under control.its not like HUGE bands dont play there.
yeah but all the HUGE bands that play there bring their own sound guy
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chris,i thought for sure we would butt heads last night at some point.
what gives?
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More pics are up on .net (http://thebreakfast.net/photos.php?date=2007-05-18)
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chris,i thought for sure we would butt heads last night at some point.
what gives?
work + I hate the Webster.
I hate driving there, I hate being there, I hate the sound there I hate the staff there.
Honestly though it\'s just cause I had to work, I get out at 12:30. But it\'s only a temp job and shouldn\'t be doing it for too much longer.
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great job derek dubya!!
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great job derek dubya!!
:finger:
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gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
fuckyerself!!
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(http://www.thebreakfast.net/images/pictures/2007-05-18/Breakfast_2007-05-18_2053.jpg)
hey man, nice shot :thumbsup:
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^^^^ great pic, were any tapers in the house? find this on archive soon?
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I for a fact was talking to the Webster "stage crew" after we played and they even said they where going to make sure each set was only 60 min long because they bar wasn\'t getting enough money....LAME...
That is such b.s. None of the music venues I frequent do that, regardless of the crowd size.
Why couldn\'t they let some of the staff go early and continue to sell drinks/rock?
Ugh. Stupid Webster.
Fuck that place.
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I for a fact was talking to the Webster "stage crew" after we played and they even said they where going to make sure each set was only 60 min long because they bar wasn\'t getting enough money....LAME...
That is such b.s. None of the music venues I frequent do that, regardless of the crowd size.
Why couldn\'t they let some of the staff go early and continue to sell drinks/rock?
Because the Webster sucks....
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Because the Webster sucks....
yup.
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while the webster undoubtedly sucks, i\'ve been to shows where there just weren\'t enough people drinking enough to bother keeping the place open. hell, i\'ve worked at bars where i\'ve asked the "talent" to make the second set a long encore because there weren\'t enough people there and drinking to justify keeping the staff on. i\'m sure their insurance policy dictates their staff levels, so if there\'s not enough tickets sold and there\'s not enough booze sold to compensate for the lack of ticket sales, its not really worth it to them. its great and wonderful when the folks at the bar are getting into it as much as the crowd and don\'t mind taking a bit of a loss in order to enjoy the tunes, but its not always the case. and, knowing the general dickitude that is the webster, doesn\'t surprise me one bit.
so, the moral of the story is, even if you\'re on drugs, buy lots of alcohol at the bar.
that way, the bar will like the band and will want them back and make them headliners. hell, if you really wanna make the breakfast huge, it doesn\'t matter about promo, just have everyone at the show buy, like, 40-60 bucks worth of booze apiece, and club owners will be scrambling to book the band!
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It\'s not like the place was THAT empty, and the bar didn\'t seem to be doing terrible business. I for one did my part and spent about 60 bucks even though I didn\'t get there until 11.... heh....
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Bottom line: when you haven\'t even been inside and you already have to wait for the bitch ever so necessarily patting people down and giving them shit for not taking even the money out of their pockets to have it examined for what i could assume obvious reasons, the place will most likely suck. I accidentally ordered the wrong drink and by the shady, mumbling, non-eye contact making, already annoyed bartender\'s little attitude that was also witnessed and commented on by people waiting for drinks, I think Walsh said something like, "shit what\'d you do to get on her shit list so fast?" you would\'ve thought that i ordered like ten drinks, spilled 3 of em and then gave her like 50 cents for a tip. Her annoyed sigh and nasty stare made it easy to decide which bartender to go to for the rest of the night. Goddamn, Happy and Rufus were insane! I mean nothing negative nor am I trying to take anything away from the "trio" but I can see Matt fitting in really well with all their playing styles. Todd\'s pic of Matt and Tim really did capture the moment as far as I\'m concerned. Looking forward to their return to the area.
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newsflash,they pat down folks to make sure they dont bring in anything illegal,which also includes weapons.theyre doin their job.
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I was hardly searched when I got there. Probably the first time ever. Also she didn\'t charge any of us a penny to get in.
Guess I didn\'t even need the tickets after all.
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These clubs are businesses. They are there to make money. When it\'s no longer profitable to keep the club open, they want to shut it down asap. Toad\'s has out right turned the sound off on some bands. (hilarious, always).
Where the Webster sucks in this, is that you can\'t have a drink in front of the stage. This forces people to choose, drink selectively, or opt for other forms of intox. To a degree they fuck themselves and then take it out on the band/fans.
For the record I really enjoyed the first set. Thanks to Wah for getting me there.
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I wonder if this will affect whether or not the Breakfast is able to get booked there again?
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from the sound of it, seems like the webster may have taken a slight edge over the dying room for the crown of least popular breakfast venue. on an unrelated note, you new hampshire folk need to all get together somewhere and do some kind of anti-rain dance, is it ever not raining up there in may. . .
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It\'s really miserable. It\'s supposed to be APRIL showers for goodness sake. I am sick of flooding, I am sick of teaching in the rain, I am sick of being damp and cold all of the time. Aahhhh!
The only upside of it is I have a really cool umbrella that I get to use.
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Some things about the show...
1. Though I had a good time, I\'m a little peaved i spent 18 dollars with charges on the ticket and I could\'ve just walked in for free. I know once I bought the ticket online you can\'t refund it, and I obviously want to support the band any way I can, but I don\'t make a lot of money and I\'d rather have 18 bucks more right now! When I got in I was walking around looking for any human being who was going to take my ticket, and then I found a security guard. Only because I\'m an honest person did I ask her "who do you give your tickets to" because I didn\'t want trouble (and I did BUY a ticket!). Then she pointed me in the right direction. Common sense says don\'t have the doors wide open and nobody checking for tickets at a performance venue. I realize there was this free ticket giveaway thing, but having nobody around was pretty unprofessional if you ask me. Shit, they even spelled them "The Breakfest" on the ticket!
2. What people have been saying about the beer situation is just straight up silly. I\'m not a "drink a thousand beers" at a show guy, but I\'ve been known to throw some down at a show before. I didn\'t know you couldn\'t bring a beer to the front part. That\'s redonkulous. It\'s 2007 guys, let\'s get a clue here, who the hell cares...
3. The show shouldn\'t revolve around beer sales. Just because the bar isn\'t making a lot of $ doesn\'t mean you should cut a show short. I know that wasn\'t the only factor but it was a contributing one if what people are saying are true. People look forward to shows. They spend the money they work for on the shit they like. Plus the insane prices of gas to get to the shows. Business shit like that should be thrown to the side when a group of fans come together for a concert IMO. I know that\'s the hippie-dippie attitude but it would be cool if more people felt that way. Business-smizzness. I\'m not at all concerned with how much the webster makes on beer. I just wanna see the breakfast for as long as possible. I\'m sure the webster will be doing just fine financially if I have 1 or 9 beers. I know that type of thing won\'t change but I wish it would.
4. The sound was eh. I noticed this in the nye 05 dvd so atleast I knew going in it wasn\'t gonna be SPAC sound quality! But man. The venue has to do something about this. Maybe more people would come if it sounded better? I guess nothing can be done... I don\'t know anything about sound shit, but props as always to the sound guy for doing the best with what they got.... I know it\'s not his or the band\'s fault. It\'s not like it sounded bad, just very "boomy." And again, the lights were sick.
5. It seems like the band gets very little respect from the venue. I don\'t wanna rant here, but I mean what more does a band have to do? They\'ve played over 1000 shows and this is basically a hometown venue on a friday night, and they cut em short at 1 am? What\'s up with that? No encore? What assholes are in charge here? Can\'t people be cool? I remember listening to a bisco amsterdam show from 05 where Browny said something like, "We\'re supposed to only have 5 more minutes but I spoke with ____ and he\'s giving us 15 because he\'s a cool motherfucker." And the crowd goes nuts of course. That\'s who we need in charge there! I mean, if I was actually the guy who makes the decision whether to let the band keep playing or stop them, I would say there\'s two ways to look at it: 1. There\'s hardly anyone here, the beer sales suck, fuck these people, let\'s cut it short. OR 2. There\'s not many people here, but these are the hardcore folks who really want to be here, they seem to be having a great time, let\'s let the band keep playing for them. I would pick #2 of course!
I know they\'ve played in front of small crowds before in the 2 years I\'ve seen them (actually 2 years ago today) and that has never stopped them from playing insane shows, and god bless them for it. I mean, there weren\'t a lot of people at the 11/2/98 phish show, but that didn\'t stop the band from playing an insane show, and god knows nobody was giving them the "wrap it up" shit. How come places like mezzanotte in syracuse (a bar with a performance stage) let them play till 2 but an actual performance venue with a bar in the back makes em stop at 1? Good god, it\'s a friday night, and for everything they\'ve done they should say to them "play till 3 you hippie fucks and have fun." Don\'t get me started on having 25 bands on before them. That obviously takes away from breakfast time. If they came on 9 and had till 1 that\'s a lot different! I don\'t know what the curfew situation is like there. Is it always 1 or can it be altered depending on how the night\'s going?
I guess that\'s it. Bottom line is, I had a good time, but as always I would prefer to hear more breakfast on any given night than less. I know you all would agree. I say come back to the puppet house. Is that place still functional? That show i saw there on 8/19/05 was insane. You all know it. 3 sets, epicness, no issues, no nothing. There wasn\'t time for an encore that night but there was already 3 great sets (including the cover of Morrison Hotel!) so I\'d say everyone got their fill and was in no position to complain! Friday was very different...
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I say come back to the puppet house. Is that place still functional? That show i saw there on 8/19/05 was insane. You all know it. 3 sets, epicness, no issues, no nothing. There wasn\'t time for an encore that night but there was already 3 great sets (including the cover of Morrison Hotel!) so I\'d say everyone got their fill and was in no position to complain! Friday was very different...
Yes It is, My Band La MSV plays there atleast once a month. The place is run by MORONS who want to make money but do no work and don\'t want to pay any bands.......My Drummer lives right around the corner so we basicly use the place as a 3 hour live pratice, which makes somes killer shows. And the sad thing is the place does have amazing sound. If run by the proper people they could be holding pretty big shows there every weekend, not just fall into the random mid level act that think it will be a cool place to play(such as Kaki King, The Rafter Bats, etc.)
I acutlly found about 10 tickets from that 08/19 shows a few months ago there, wish I had gone to that show.
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set 1....epic, and sounded really good from the bar.
set 2....meh. only a instrumental song or mooboo\'s would have saved it due to the sound (or lack of). Why play bugs there, is it only me or did that kill ALL the energy in the place after Harry.
To the band/management---you found your new keys...please get him in the band.
It seems playing 2 sets is losing people, is 1 loooonnngggg set gonna keep everybody there?
Wah...thanks for the shot. Good seeing ya.
As for the lights, top notch!!!!
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Where the Webster sucks in this, is that you can\'t have a drink in front of the stage. This forces people to choose, drink selectively, or opt for other forms of intox. To a degree they fuck themselves and then take it out on the band/fans.
Nail on head.
Why play bugs there, is it only me or did that kill ALL the energy in the place after Harry.
I begged them not to play it.
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First off.....The Webster security was better last friday than I have ever seen it before. I had/saw no problem with anyone working at the theater on this night. The offical number was just shy of 300 at the peak of the night....
I understand why the show was called early, its just that it took all the wind out of my sails.
I thought chadwick did a good job of making that room sound listenable. and from what i understand with the webster, its all where you stand.
The lights were HUGE!
Another posative note is that usually the band doesnt play as tight when they are spread across a big stage. they like and often request to be tighter spacewise. However they were symetrical as well as far spread as ever and the show/sound/tightness was not effected at all.....
Regarding Matt. He is definitely an amazing keyboard player and musician in general. I dont think you are going to see an announcement anytime soon, but I would bet that you will see Mr. Oestreicher showing up and sitting in at more and more shows. The whole thing has been very organic and it will continue to grow naturally as the band see fits. However, as a fan, if all the pieces do fit, I cannot wait to see/hear this band if they do eventually get Matt as a full time keyboardist.
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Well, all things considered, I felt this show was mostly solid and included an exceptional first set, highlights of which were for me were Puppetry, the jam out of Honey Butter, and the opening section of Rufus. I must also admit that I was somewhat struck by Good Things.
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Best executed Good Things to date......
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The drinks HAVE to be separated from the under 21 section, i.e. "In front", due to CT Laws. It has nothing to do with the webster outside of how the building is set up. The one thing they could do is put the rail up in frint of the SBD that you can\'t go by, that would spread some of the bar madness.
The Webster doesn\'t give a shit about bands that do not sell alot of tix...period!!! No non-bar venue does. It is a business, end of story. With no people in attendance there is no reason for them to stay open. Did it suck yes, was I pissed yes, was I surprised...NO!
The Webster sounds much better when the place is packed, yes they could improve certain things to make it less boomy, but if more people went...it wouldn\'t sound as bad.
Are you really comparing the Webster on a way undersold friday night to a festival in Amsterdam that we were able to bring bongs and huge amounts of Hash and **** into??? The Biscuits brought about 8-900 fans from America to AMSTERDAM!!! I think they might have a little more pull than say the Breakfast bringing ~300 to their home state. Be a little more realistic when trying to make a place sound bad.
If Matt was to join the band I really hope it would be a little less busy(which i think it would be), than during his two sitins. Although Good Things was a really good version. I really am interested in what will happen.
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I wanted Matt to stay up there for the rest of the show. I would love to see him sit in again sometime soon coughwebstercough. .
i fuckin called that! too bad i missed seeing it.:slap:
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possible permanent new keyboardist or no chance?
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Regarding Matt. He is definitely an amazing keyboard player and musician in general. I dont think you are going to see an announcement anytime soon, but I would bet that you will see Mr. Oestreicher showing up and sitting in at more and more shows. The whole thing has been very organic and it will continue to grow naturally as the band see fits. However, as a fan, if all the pieces do fit, I cannot wait to see/hear this band if they do eventually get Matt as a full time keyboardist.
possible permanent new keyboardist or no chance?
I would say there is a possiblitly for there to be no chance......but then again....maybe not
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hetty organic brah
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Good to hear keys again - Matt certainly seems to be bedding in. (Am streaming this at the moment.) I really enjoyed the sit in from Daniel St too - not quite in sync yet during Buquebus on that one, but pretty good, given his keyboard problems. And the Beef Barley on this is great fun - or should that be funk?!! If Jordan can\'t be enticed back, he could be a possiblity.
I agree with the comments re Good Things - stonking version of one of my favourite Breakfast tracks. Ever since I got the album, I have thought it sounds like the sort of song Macca wished he could still write - Chaos & Creation didn\'t do it for me. Now if Tim could do a George Harrison sounding solo as well...
Oh yes, the sound at the Webster does indeed seem to have got worse - so much boomier than previous - have just stopped streaming to cross check with some earlier recordings.
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possible permanent new keyboardist or no chance?
I would say there is a possiblitly for there to be no chance......but then again....maybe not
:spin: :lol: thanks for the clairification there, big guy! :lol: :spin:
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sounded kinda wierd on the webster show. is other sit in on archive?
hmmm listening to the queeb now....sounds kinda cool kinda wierd. but who is he anyway? does he play in other bands, is he from the area? etc?
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good things for me is still :vomit:
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but who is he anyway?
Matt is from Fairfield and has played with many groups, including Spyro Gyra and Chick Corea. He is a definite comedian. His antics tonight were hilarious to say the least! VERY talented.
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good things for me is still :vomit:
Good Things = A GREAT thing
but hey, to each their own.
Best executed Good Things to date......
So bummed I missed this. Steve feels just the way I do about this tune, so I\'m psyched to hear a recording of it.
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Upon relisten, I will say it is probably the best \'Good Things\' to date. I too love this song and think it is more of this that the Breakfast need to throw in to their repitoire so they could bring even more dynamics to their live show. I am waiting for the Tim acoustic songs ala Bobby Cha(Weir)..bring a new dimension to the music.
Especially in their longer sets, it sometimes gets a little stale when it is balls-to-wall speed. Minimalism can be just as face-melting as shredding. Pretty solid show, I am still biased by the awesomeness that was Daniel St and River ST. from the weekend before...I would include the Chameleon show 2nd set...but alas only Gencs and a couple others would know why;)
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hot damn, too bad i missed this one... looks nice
i understand the webster grumblings, i feel like that place would do better with different management.... :idunno:
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well I\'m usually behind on breakfast tune evolution, so maybe i should have listened all the way thru to GThings instead of peacing outside for this one
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well I\'m usually behind on breakfast tune evolution, so maybe i should have listened all the way thru to GThings instead of peacing outside for this one
LOOnoobzer!!!!
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well I\'m usually behind on breakfast tune evolution, so maybe i should have listened all the way thru to GThings instead of peacing outside for this one
that\'s the problem is people hear the first few notes of a slow tune (good things or L&TG) and just bounce right off the cuff, stick around for the ballads THEY\'RE GOOD!
LOOnoobzer!!!!
:lol:
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:fruitsex: NOOBfoLife!
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:fruitsex: NOOBfoLife!
at least you know puppetry when you hear it :sarcasm:
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last ones for today.... i figured i\'d post something with lights for EllisD
http://www.thebreakfast.info/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=646
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i just listened to this show yesterday for the first time. while the playing was pretty decent, the freakin\' sound is worse than i, personally, will bother with listening to again. and the comments that the music becomes too busy with the key\'s guy are right on, in that there\'s so much boomy echoing going on that things just get mushed and lost. i hope the webster pays a bunch and i hope they book the b\'fast as much as humanly possible if that is the case. but of all the places i\'ve ever seen a band (or heard discs of a band from) i can honestly say its the worst. can someone point me in the direction of the bisco shows that were there that supposedly sound good? i\'d love to hear it with a full room, but they have the wrong pa for the room and no baffling on concrete walls, so i can\'t imagine it ever sounds better than crap.
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I saw Ween there in a full house and the sound was just as bad. Webster sucks and thus we shall never return.
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fair enough. i just had heard about it sounding better full, but after my experience there, i truly can\'t see it.... but again, if they pay well, i hope the breakfast plays there every week.
[evil]well, more like, \'rehearses\' there every week....[/evil]
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If anyone cares to listen, my band La MSV has a sbd track from that night call "Mafusa" you can check it out @ http://www.myspace.com/LaMSV
If you do take a listen let us know what you think!
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fair enough. i just had heard about it sounding better full, but after my experience there, i truly can\'t see it....
i don\'t think the term better fits when it comes to the Webster. maybe the sound is \'less worse\' when its filled, but its a far cry from good, ever.
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maybe the sound is \'less worse\' when its filled, but its a far cry from good, ever.
Dead nuts on!!