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Title: A discussion about electronic music [SPLIT]
Post by: peaches626 on August 21, 2007, 02:16:38 am
rich and complex?
if forced to go with two words to describe the PA set, i go with boring and repetitive.
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 21, 2007, 10:09:50 am
If you only knew what type of work goes into programming a set like that, I\'m sure your song would change.
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Post by: jking on August 21, 2007, 10:44:14 am
dude, when i go to a concert, i don\'t care how much coding went into it. i care about the music that gets *played* not programmed. how about learning how to create those sounds with an instrument instead of being lazy ass mofo\'s and using a computer.
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If you only knew what type of work goes into programming a set like that, I\'m sure your song would change.
easily the most hysterical defense of a musical act, evAr!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 21, 2007, 11:12:10 am
sssigghhhhhhhhhh......
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Post by: jking on August 21, 2007, 11:28:28 am
sorry dude, but i\'ve actually jammed with a guy who uses a lap top to make his beats. there is no opportunity for exploration or deviation, unless we stop and let him re-program. kinda kills the flow of a musical experience to have to stop and wait for the guy to re-code, ya know... if i break a string, they can all keep going and i can re-join once i\'ve re-strung. but if he stops, we all have to stop, since he can\'t get the beat to match us, we have to match him. and all this instead of someone actually taking the time to learn how to play drums.
isn\'t the point of a musical experience to have a communal moment, between the musicians themselves and also with the musicians and the audience? you can\'t have that if your musical conversation is forced to stay within certain boundaries due to a computer that will only play what its been told to. it becomes a stilted and boring conversation with inherent limits obvious to everyone listening. call me silly, but i like listening to music where anything can happen at any time, not something that\'s been prescribed beforehand, based on the computer\'s programmings....
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 21, 2007, 11:52:38 am
That\'s you, and it\'s fine. I have my opinion of the blues, but I\'ll keep it to myself. I don\'t expect electronica to be taken in by everyone, but I think people don\'t have close to a full understanding of how difficult creating electronic music is. It\'s not just twisting nobs and looping "beats". It\'s programming exactly what type of beat, tempo, pitch, which percussives are used, where to drop out, where to drop in etc. It\'s about taking out one nano second of a beat, just so you can fill that space with a barely audible synth wash, or sine drone. To me live music is very limited. Electronica opens up the musician to the infinite and i think it\'s brilliant how musicians, over the years, have merged both live performance and programming in such a tasteful, gorgeous and entertaining manner.
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Post by: jking on August 21, 2007, 12:03:29 pm
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I have my opinion of the blues, but I\'ll keep it to myself.
as someone who claims to have a huge understanding of music, if your opinion of the blues is a negative one, all your credibility is completely lost.
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It\'s programming exactly what type of beat, tempo, pitch, which percussives are used, where to drop out, where to drop in etc. It\'s about taking out one nano second of a beat, just so you can fill that space with a barely audible synth wash, or sine drone.
right, this is known as "drumming", with a references to a "percussionist" and a "keyboardist". and get this, they can do all those things.... are you ready.... on the fly. live. as it happens!!!
but yeah, live music is limited. live musicians in a studio can do everything you mentioned above while electronic musicians live can only do what they\'ve pre-programmed. after the programming (which isn\'t music) the programmer (who is not a musician, but a programmer) is no longer needed.
you\'re saying you would be more than perfectly happy to sit in a club and watch a screen saver while the pre-programmed music plays over the pa from the lap top centerstage. and you are not alone. and it is exactly that mentality which is killing live music. it no longer needs to be a communal experience, and in fact, so many selfish minded people are around these days, that they don\'t want a communal expeiernce. they want to go listen to something that does not challenge them, something they don\'t have to pay attention to, something they can passively listen to, something that does not require them to be a part of something that everyone else there is. that\'s why there will never be another dead or phish. because the audiences have changed. me, i like the human expeiernce. you, well, enjoy your computer, dude....
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 21, 2007, 12:09:09 pm
Cool man.
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Post by: leith on August 21, 2007, 12:19:23 pm
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STS9 PA sets are incredibly rich and complex. BTW, smooth move manager talking shit publicy about a band you should be networking with.
Most of the time they are and Phil should know better.
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If you only knew what type of work goes into programming a set like that, I\'m sure your song would change.
They don\'t program the set they actually play a set.
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dude, when i go to a concert, i don\'t care how much coding went into it. i care about the music that gets *played* not programmed. how about learning how to create those sounds with an instrument instead of being lazy ass mofo\'s and using a computer.
See this is where you misunderstand. STS9 uses their computers as instruments using a program made for live performance.
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sorry dude, but i\'ve actually jammed with a guy who uses a lap top to make his beats. there is no opportunity for exploration or deviation, unless we stop and let him re-program. kinda kills the flow of a musical experience to have to stop and wait for the guy to re-code, ya know... if i break a string, they can all keep going and i can re-join once i\'ve re-strung. but if he stops, we all have to stop, since he can\'t get the beat to match us, we have to match him. and all this instead of someone actually taking the time to learn how to play drums.
isn\'t the point of a musical experience to have a communal moment, between the musicians themselves and also with the musicians and the audience? you can\'t have that if your musical conversation is forced to stay within certain boundaries due to a computer that will only play what its been told to. it becomes a stilted and boring conversation with inherent limits obvious to everyone listening. call me silly, but i like listening to music where anything can happen at any time, not something that\'s been prescribed beforehand, based on the computer\'s programmings....
That guy had shitty programs or he did not know what he was doing. STS9 concerts are some of the most communal shows going right now. How the fuck do you think they sold out Red Rocks? The audience and band meld is very palpable at STS9 shows. Anything can happen even during the PA sets.
Using the laptops is very much akin to using synths on a keyboard actually its EXACTLY like that and I never hear people bitch about keyboard players not playing actual notes while tweaking out on synths.
Well I\'m done.
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Post by: zuke583 on August 21, 2007, 12:22:40 pm
sts9 was fucking great at camp, as well as at jam on the river. jking i don\'t see how you can be so dismissive of an entire genre of music that\'s been around for more than half a century. and if you don\'t think seeing electronic music live can be a communal experience, you must have never seen electronic music live...the focus is entirely on the music and the experience (not 4 guys on stage) and it makes it much more organic
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 21, 2007, 12:26:11 pm
Leith, I know STS9 actually plays their PA set. I just meant programming in regards to choosing what beats, samples, synth loops etc.
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Post by: jking on August 21, 2007, 01:29:28 pm
:lol: i\'ve been to plenty of live electronic music shows. most of them years ago (early 90\'s and before) but i saw bisco a year or so ago. i\'ve seen sts9, too. and my focus isn\'t on the four guys on stage, its on the music coming out of them.
if anything, i\'ll give you that electronica does have a very solid base in entrainment, which certainly produces a sense of communality. but beyond that, its dull, repetitive schlock! why force yourself into a confined area musically when its not necessary? nothing can be done by a computer that can\'t be done by an actual human being. its just lazy. yes, i can hit rumba on my casio keyboard and play over that for an hour and a half, but i sure as hell wouldn\'t PAY to listen to someone else do exactl that!
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Post by: skalnbyc on August 21, 2007, 01:30:47 pm
I see more electronic music than any other genre (both live bands achieving an electronic sound as well as DJ sets) and I must say that STS9 was the weakest band I\'ve seen in that genre. My girlfriend and I were laughing at how boring/redundant their music was.
I was really stunned that Bisco had to play before them at the show I went to.
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 21, 2007, 01:48:16 pm
I beg to differ.... I just don\'t think anyone should be shot over it ;) It\'s not so much about trying to grab each note that STS9 plays, but rather letting it take hold of you.
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Post by: Lexington on August 21, 2007, 01:48:37 pm
i still need drugs to enjoy most electronic music, by a live band or by a bunch of guys on laptops who never take off their hoodies. even though that\'s not a huge sacrifice for me to make,i find that most elctronic acts never achieve the musical climaxes and "orgasms" experienced by band and audience during acts that actually have real musical instruments. the biscuits are sick but STS9 still hasn\'t done it for me
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Post by: Igziabeher on August 21, 2007, 02:13:35 pm
here\'s my take:
both electronic and "live" music have the ability to be great or suck. there are great electronic acts, there are boring ones. there are great live acts, and there are shitty ones too.
if you\'re trying to classify the entire realm of electronic music as boring and repetitive, well then you\'re not really giving it all that much a shot.
I got to see Daft Punk this summer and it was hands down one of the greatest live shows i\'ve ever seen(alongside the Flaming Lips). Both those shows reinvented the live show atmosphere for me, and totally blew me away. So it doesn\'t really matter much to me if its live or electronic, its all what you do w/ it.
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Post by: Spacey on August 21, 2007, 02:17:43 pm
What exactly is a PA set?
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Post by: princesscaspian on August 21, 2007, 02:18:26 pm
well said igzy. it\'s truly not just black and white. i am a fan of electronic music and have stumbled onto some pretty awful crap while pursing new music. it just happens.
but to completely write off the genre of electronic music is just downright ignorant. it\'s still such a new category that changes with each new piece of technology/software/equipment that comes out. i mean honestly, you think pink floyd got slack for their synthesizers? of course ! they were groundbreaking when they started incorporating electronic noises into their music, and now they are legends. so before you lump and stereotype, expand your horizons. . . . .
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Post by: weekapaug19 on August 21, 2007, 02:24:12 pm
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What exactly is a PA set?
i\'ve been wondering this for a while.
For the STS9 PA set, assuming I\'m understanding this correctly, there was just people on stage with laptops? There was no "live" music? I\'m not big into electronic music so could somebody please fill me in on what this PA set is all about.
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Post by: jking on August 21, 2007, 02:28:28 pm
what if i\'ve already expanded my horizons and still think its unispired tripe? remember, this "new" music isn\'t new.
utilizing electronic elements is one thing (see: synthesizers). relying on those elements is constrictive and dull.
its like the time i saw moby in 1990 at this dilapidated warehouse outside of baltimore. this was when, if you were really hip, you knew who moby was. so we get there, excited to hear some great mixing and all he does is turn on an album of his most recently finished tracks and walked away from the dj booth. the people who were there and on drugs thought it was spiritual. those of us actually listening to the music heard it for what it was - uninspired, non-interactive and repetitive.
the more things change....
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Post by: princesscaspian on August 21, 2007, 02:45:01 pm
ok ok you saw moby in 1990... you want a medal?
but to chalk up anything moving about electronic music simply to drug use.... pfffft.... not going to touch this one. you\'re entitled to your opinion, so be it.
i, for one, don\'t think all electronic music is uninspired tripe, and have found lots of profound, complex, moving tunes out there... maybe not in 1990, but here in 2007. to imply that the music has stayed the same through all these years just seems silly to me...
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 21, 2007, 02:51:00 pm
Pink Floyd were far from groundbreaking when it came to electronica development. Besides minimalists, all electronic accomplishments can be chalked up to the Germans. If anyone wants any stuff let me know, I would love to hook it up.....
Oh, and Moby sucks IMO.....
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Post by: dredmonkey on August 21, 2007, 02:56:37 pm
one word......bassnectar
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Post by: jking on August 21, 2007, 03:00:30 pm
he certainly does. he didn\'t. but he has for quite a while.
and i\'m not comparing 1990 to 2007. i am comparing experiences in both years and saying that the experiences are the same. i felt the same way when i saw sts9 in 2000 and 05, bisco in 02 and 04. also, if you don\'t think interesting, complex things were happening back then and that things have only gotten better since, well, thats just youth talking. some things have improved. some things haven\'t. but newer simply doesn\'t necessarily mean better. so, please tell me what is moving about electronic music? where are the peaks and builds? the tension and release? where is the human interaction upon which music thrives?
didn\'t bassnectar have to end his set at waka early when his laptop got wet? :lol:
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Post by: princesscaspian on August 21, 2007, 03:16:40 pm
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and i\'m not comparing 1990 to 2007. i am comparing experiences in both years and saying that the experiences are the same. i felt the same way when i saw sts9 in 2000 and 05, bisco in 02 and 04. also, if you don\'t think interesting, complex things were happening back then and that things have only gotten better since, well, thats just youth talking. some things have improved. some things haven\'t. but newer simply doesn\'t necessarily mean better. so, please tell me what is moving about electronic music? where are the peaks and builds? the tension and release? where is the human interaction upon which music thrives?
i never said interesting things *weren\'t* happening 2 decades ago, just merely stating the fact that the music is simply not the same. if the experiences that you, personally, had were the same, then perhaps you indeed have maxed out on your enjoyment of electronic music.
music is a dynamic process, and as time goes on and on, people change, styles change, influences change, whats "hot" changes as well.... just the nature of the game. if that is just my youthful innocence (insert puppy dog eyes) then perhaps i\'m just a naive child. but it makes me happy, makes me move, hits places in my brain rock music could *never* reach, and its quite real to me.
... human interaction upon which music thrives? how do you figure? just because a human isn\'t playing a guitar, bass, or drums, how is it not human? is a person spinning at a live show not human ?? can they not react to the audience, thrive off their energy? i don\'t understand your logic.
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Post by: ulee on August 21, 2007, 03:17:30 pm
If the environment is perfect (night, happy people, colors, glowing stuff, strobe lights) and the DJ really knows how to work the crowd, the collective climaxes of trance/techno/house can be pretty incredible. (coming from a drug free experience perspective). The climactic moments tend to be more shortlived and the builds more predictable. Good house music with dirty deep bass is just plain sexxy. I\'ve found with "progressive" electronic music, I like it better as an accompaniment to doing something, like writing, driving, etc., because it keeps flowing and changing and propelling you forward.
DJs versus all-electronic bands are pretty different beasts though. I prefer if a band is going to have an electronic sound that they at least use some instruments (Lotus, Psylab, from last year\'s Camp).
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 21, 2007, 03:40:19 pm
Ok Jason, you prefer music with tension/release, and peaks/builds. Those qualities don\'t define music, as music is a subjective and evolving word. As consciousness evolves so does music. Electronic music is the next step. It allows me to access altered states of consciousness in a lucid state. Sound Tribe Sector 9 give off beautiful energy. Seeing as almost every person I encounter igornantly laughs at their "hetty crystals", I find most don\'t allow themselves to experience the healing potential their music offers. Disco Biscuits bring a different energy: darker, malevolent, which often helps me tap into my shadow side. None of these light/dark experiences would occur if there weren\'t electronic instruments involved. A wiseman once said, "through repetition comes change".....
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Post by: princesscaspian on August 21, 2007, 03:42:48 pm
that\'s a great point ulee... the environment has a really profound effect on the perception of the music. and so little of that (if any!) translates to a CD. prime example: Girl Talk ... not a big fan until I saw the show, and DAMN! i\'m buyin tickets to the show next month.
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 21, 2007, 03:48:22 pm
Depending on how sensitive one is to other people\'s energy, a show can be a godsend or disaster. For instance, I\'m extremely sensitive to other people\'s energy. I can pick up on agitated states, altered states, (negative energies) etc and it most likely will ruin the show for me. Prime example was Umphrey\'s in Northhampton. The crowd\'s energy was TERRIBLE and I wasn\'t enjoying any of the music. I swore off Umphrey\'s after that experience, but sure enough upon listening to the show on disc I realized it was one of their best performances.
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Post by: freddiewaht on August 21, 2007, 03:54:17 pm
treys dead bisco sucks get a job
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Post by: jking on August 21, 2007, 04:01:41 pm
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I\'ve found with "progressive" electronic music, I like it better as an accompaniment to doing something, like writing, driving, etc., because it keeps flowing and changing and propelling you forward.
so what you\'ve actually found, as i pointed out earlier, is music that doesn\'t challenge the listener, that doesn\'t require active listening and is just background noise. that\'s fine, but in no way interesting, to me.
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It allows me to access altered states of consciousness in a lucid state.
as should live music. non-electronic music just misses out on the repititiousness required to induce a trance (see my earlier comments about rhthymic entrainment) but just because your brain isn\'t slowing down doesn\'t mean the music is bad or that altered states can\'t be achieved. hell, classical music is the best stuff in the world for producing altered states and that\'s as far from untz as it gets! bluegrass can also produce the same entrainment experience if played long enough. but most bluegrass musicians know not to play a thirty minute bluegrass jam, because at some point, the audience will get bored of the same beat over and over. apparently a lot of kidz these days like to be mind-numbed (as is obvious by the predominant drugs on the scene these days - benzo\'s, h, k, etc...). me, i like to be mind-expanded.
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the environment has a really profound effect on the perception of the music.
yes, that\'s true for all types of music.
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is a person spinning at a live show not human ?? can they not react to the audience, thrive off their energy?
sure, and that person is called a disc jockey, *not* a musician. he is playing music, not creating it.
and frankly, i see electronic as a much more compositionally-minded beast in that if you are going to use it, you must be constrained to whatever is pre-programmed. even if there are many choices of programming available, you are still stuck with those choices. what if, in the midst of a jam, you come upon a rhthym, a texture, a mood that has not been pre-programmed? that\'s what i mean by allowing yourselves a limited area within which to play. like painting with only the couple colors you think you\'ll need. what happens if you realize, mid-painting that another color would be an incredible addition, but because you didn\'t think of it beforehand your painting will now suffer.
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Post by: Gfunk on August 21, 2007, 04:14:05 pm
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is a person spinning at a live show not human ?? can they not react to the audience, thrive off their energy?
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sure, and that person is called a disc jockey, *not* a musician. he is playing music, not creating it.
Turntables have evolved into an instrument. They are no longer just a device to play a record on. that being said, I understand where you are coming from Jking. In my opinion, live music tends to have more soul then electronic music. I agree with Igz though, not all electronic music is necessarily bad, just like every live band is not necessarily good (stating the obvious I know).
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Post by: Igziabeher on August 21, 2007, 04:51:10 pm
Bob Dylan has very little peaks and buildups and tension and release, but you can\'t say it isn\'t moving either. same goes for electro. clearly its a more basic approach to music(speed up/slowed down, volume high/low), but the \'artist\' is still mixing it all together for a live audience.
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Post by: jking on August 21, 2007, 04:56:33 pm
yeah, i definitely agree that there can be some good, i just haven\'t heard them yet. that being said, i have just stated trying to educate myself with turntablists. i d/l\'ed a crapload of stuff from teh pig and have been giving it its chance. qbert and shadow seem to be pretty badass but praxis was awful. well, when the musicians were all contributing to the same thing, it was pretty ok. so, about three or four tracks from that album were worth listening to. buckhead (and more specifically, his tone) were abrasive and unlistenable, to me. the live recording of qbert in austin was pretty good, though. i hesitate to call those particular guys (along with mixmaster mike, for instance) dj\'s though, because, like you said, gfunk, they are not just playing records and getting the beats to match.
bob dylan\'s peaks are in his songwriting, not just the playing, imo.
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Post by: Gfunk on August 21, 2007, 05:01:58 pm
check out cut chemist. he is ser.
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Post by: davepeck on August 21, 2007, 05:02:06 pm
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Post by: jking on August 21, 2007, 05:26:43 pm
i think i may have grabbed something with cut chemist, actually. i burned a spindle\'s worth of new music (not just turntablists) last weekend and am working my way through it.... grabbed a bunch of random, should have had it already, used to have it but lost it and always heard about these guys but never heard them kinda albums. it was kinda downloading a bunch of john hartford and a bunch dj\'s at the same time, i gotta admit! :lol:
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 21, 2007, 05:46:56 pm
Check out The Future Sound of London "The Isness".
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Post by: jking on August 21, 2007, 06:14:32 pm
d/l\'ing now.
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Post by: bdfreetuna on August 21, 2007, 06:44:32 pm
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I can pick up on agitated states, altered states, (negative energies) etc and it most likely will ruin the show for me. Prime example was Umphrey\'s in Northhampton. The crowd\'s energy was TERRIBLE and I wasn\'t enjoying any of the music. I swore off Umphrey\'s after that experience, but sure enough upon listening to the show on disc I realized it was one of their best performances.
Are you talking about the last show they played up there... probably July or some time around then?? Cuz that was the best UM show I\'ve ever seen (out of 6 I think).
You probably shoulda come up to the balcony everyone was spun and the vibes were great.
... I listened to Paul Oakenfolds\'s "Tranceport" in my car the other day. \\
Cool huh.
Most electronica sucks though. Shpongle is somewhat legit. STS9 is also somewhat legit. Some chillout music like Air is kinda cool.
But Bisco really sucks.
The Breakfast === 1st Buquebus jam.... or some crazy Puppetry or Escher\'s === the best "electronic music"
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 21, 2007, 06:57:47 pm
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I can pick up on agitated states, altered states, (negative energies) etc and it most likely will ruin the show for me. Prime example was Umphrey\'s in Northhampton. The crowd\'s energy was TERRIBLE and I wasn\'t enjoying any of the music. I swore off Umphrey\'s after that experience, but sure enough upon listening to the show on disc I realized it was one of their best performances.
Are you talking about the last show they played up there... probably July or some time around then?? Cuz that was the best UM show I\'ve ever seen (out of 6 I think).
You probably shoulda come up to the balcony everyone was spun and the vibes were great.... I listened to Paul Oakenfolds\'s "Tranceport" in my car the other day. \\
Cool huh.
Most electronica sucks though. Shpongle is somewhat legit. STS9 is also somewhat legit. Some chillout music like Air is kinda cool.
But Bisco really sucks.
The Breakfast === 1st Buquebus jam.... or some crazy Puppetry or Escher\'s === the best "electronic music"
Unfortunately that\'s energy I can\'t handle and is a primary reason why I don\'t attend jamband related shows anymore.
Bottom line... You either like some electronica, or you don\'t... It\'s not going anywhere, so I don\'t see the point in complaining, especially when the firstmost electronica festival in America just invited our boys to play. If anything we should all be thankful!!
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Post by: princesscaspian on August 21, 2007, 08:50:14 pm
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Shpongle is somewhat legit.
oooohhmy SHPONGLE! can\'t get enough. Nothing Lasts. . . But Nothing Is Lost gives me goosebumps everytime i listen to it. that\'s some heady shit right there.
in fact, anything Posford generally does it for me. I want him to run away with my brain.
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Post by: zuke583 on August 21, 2007, 09:15:22 pm
nah...that kid\'s a way better dancer than i\'ll ever be:banboogy2:
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I\'ve found with "progressive" electronic music, I like it better as an accompaniment to doing something, like writing, driving, etc., because it keeps flowing and changing and propelling you forward.
so what you\'ve actually found, as i pointed out earlier, is music that doesn\'t challenge the listener, that doesn\'t require active listening and is just background noise. that\'s fine, but in no way interesting, to me.
please please please give a listen to shpongle\'s "nothing lasts..." if you would like a sendspace or an oink invite (i have 10 of them...please somebody take one), i would be happy to hook you up. i don\'t want to seem pushy...just trying to spread some good music that will definitely expand your mind
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Post by: bdfreetuna on August 21, 2007, 09:38:33 pm
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Unfortunately that\'s energy I can\'t handle and is a primary reason why I don\'t attend jamband related shows anymore.
Wow.... so if other people are groovin\' at a show on some nice Lucy their "energy" is so offsetting to you that you will avoid a show where this might be happening all together??
all I gotta say is.. your loss!
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 22, 2007, 12:09:46 am
IMHO Posford is incredibly one dimensional. Now if you want some decent Psytrance check out System 7!!! And if you like Sphongle and want some ethno-electronica check out any one of Bill Laswell\'s hundreds of albums.
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Post by: derickw on August 22, 2007, 08:45:56 am
nah...that kid\'s a way better dancer than i\'ll ever be:banboogy2:
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I\'ve found with "progressive" electronic music, I like it better as an accompaniment to doing something, like writing, driving, etc., because it keeps flowing and changing and propelling you forward.
so what you\'ve actually found, as i pointed out earlier, is music that doesn\'t challenge the listener, that doesn\'t require active listening and is just background noise. that\'s fine, but in no way interesting, to me.
please please please give a listen to shpongle\'s "nothing lasts..." if you would like a sendspace or an oink invite (i have 10 of them...please somebody take one), i would be happy to hook you up. i don\'t want to seem pushy...just trying to spread some good music that will definitely expand your mind
if you have it up there i\'ll take a listen... shoot me a link if you have one
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Post by: ulee on August 22, 2007, 09:12:08 am
hey Dancin\' Zuke, I\'ll take an Oink invite! this little piggy wants to get SHPONGLEd!
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Post by: jking on August 22, 2007, 09:25:02 am
ok, that fsol was pretty good. not something i could listen to regularly, but nice for some early morning come-down music. like good, old fahioned ambient music. where was the untz? because that\'s the crap i was talking about....
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Post by: derickw on August 22, 2007, 09:36:51 am
Quote from: ulee;155952
hey Dancin\' Zuke, I\'ll take an Oink invite! this little piggy wants to get SHPONGLEd!
wow thats hot
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Post by: princesscaspian on August 22, 2007, 10:11:49 am
ulee i got your invite covered.... whats ur email?
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 22, 2007, 10:25:29 am
Jason, FSOL is electronica. Your comments have been made towards electronic music in general.
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Post by: jking on August 22, 2007, 10:33:46 am
but there were, according to an article i read, a great many actual musicians invoved, not just an 808 and loops. when i think electronic music, i think music without actual musicians. or music like sts9, where the musicians have to play around what the computer is doing. the fsol was just nice editing of other musician\'s music, to my ears.
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 22, 2007, 10:45:59 am
Check out Tosca "Suzuki"....
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Post by: jking on August 22, 2007, 11:05:43 am
its times like this that the xmas giveaway they do comes in real handy!
dear pig, thanks for the extra ratio padding you provide me with at xmas time... :lol:
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 22, 2007, 11:08:25 am
This one should piss you off..... :)
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Post by: jking on August 22, 2007, 11:22:33 am
i\'m actually listening to the schplonge thing someone else mentioned... i like it a lot more than the fsol. i\'ll switch over to the tosca in a bit....
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Post by: princesscaspian on August 22, 2007, 11:24:35 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_Lasts
read up on nothing lasts... cool concept for an album methinks!
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Post by: jking on August 22, 2007, 11:40:15 am
i thought i\'d heard mckenna\'s voice in there... :)
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Post by: princesscaspian on August 22, 2007, 11:59:16 am
:lol: right? hes a pretty trippy guy that mckenna. . .
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Post by: jking on August 22, 2007, 12:35:13 pm
i can definitely hear the various dream stages concept throughout. not bad. not bad at all...
i\'m gonna have to eat crow here in a bit, i\'m guessing....
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This one should piss you off..... :)
i was about to get pissed off, but then i just fell asleep instead... so far, so dull. this is exactly the in-the-background, nothing-to-challenge-your-ears/listening kind of pablum i was talking about. like, if it were a choice between this album and total silence, i\'d put on this album. but i\'d rather just turn on a fan....
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Post by: princesscaspian on August 22, 2007, 01:15:28 pm
its all good man, props to you for actually checkin some of this stuff out. its always nice to have an open and insightful discussion about music, especially here on the board. . . .
treychica im makin a list of your recommendations, gonna hit the pig up when i get home later... keep \'em rollin folks
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Post by: jking on August 22, 2007, 02:39:27 pm
i\'ll give anything a chance once. some things will get a couple tries. and this was one good thing, one ok thing and one thing that i will use instead of tylenolpm from now on. so, two out of three ain\'t bad!
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Post by: princesscaspian on August 22, 2007, 02:41:37 pm
:thumbsup: good times brah!
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Post by: davepeck on August 22, 2007, 05:40:08 pm
electronic music fans, i present you with this epic piece:
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Post by: Overexjoesure on August 22, 2007, 05:44:28 pm
Chocolate Rain for Breakfast campaign \'07!!!!!!!
Quote from: princesscaspian;156019
its all good man, props to you for actually checkin some of this stuff out. its always nice to have an open and insightful discussion about music, especially here on the board. . . .
treychica im makin a list of your recommendations, gonna hit the pig up when i get home later... keep \'em rollin folks
Fuck it, I\'ll make a seperate thread....
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Post by: princesscaspian on August 22, 2007, 06:27:55 pm
boncek, get on that!
:lol: that chocolate rain just keeps goin, doesn\'t it?
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Post by: kartoon42 on August 23, 2007, 06:57:53 pm
lets keep the electronic music in europe where it belongs
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Post by: princesscaspian on August 23, 2007, 09:01:49 pm
and $0.02 is your refund. . .
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Post by: WALSH on August 24, 2007, 12:45:36 pm
Amon Tobin at Camp Bisco was one of the most intense and amazing displays of musical talent I have ever witnessed. Elisa was there, she knows what i mean. Utter genius.
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Post by: Mark on August 24, 2007, 01:19:20 pm
Quote from: davepeck;156062
electronic music fans, i present you with this epic piece:
:lol: Thanks for the presentation!
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Post by: zuke583 on August 24, 2007, 06:43:18 pm
Quote from: kartoon42;156236
lets keep the electronic music in europe where it belongs
Quote from: princesscaspian;156244
and $0.02 is your refund. . .
zing
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Post by: jking on September 12, 2007, 05:51:26 pm
the greatest electronic music ever in any movie ever!!! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=SkzAJs7NutM)
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Post by: skalnbyc on September 12, 2007, 06:06:07 pm
Since the thread has been bumped, might as well add that I\'ll be at the Treasure Island Music Fest on Saturday.
Main Acts:
THIEVERY CORPORATION GOTAN PROJECT DJ SHADOW & CUT CHEMIST
The rest of the acts I\'ve never heard of.
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Post by: jking on September 12, 2007, 06:09:21 pm
i\'m actually a pretty big theivery corp fan. didn\'t mean to be, just happened that way. and to think, i turned down tickets to see them five or six years ago...
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Post by: derickw on September 13, 2007, 09:24:45 am
this is pretty much the only electronica music i listen to
The Best Of New York City Trance
http://download.yousendit.com/AC5BF2477D4A3E12
The World Of Goa Trance
http://download.yousendit.com/37FD30214E76AC7A
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Post by: skalnbyc on December 08, 2007, 02:00:17 am
After previously being critical of STS9, I\'m beginning to change my tune. The podcasts available on their website are giving me a new perspective and appreciation. I did see them over the summer and thought they were nothing special/boring. Maybe it was just an off day?
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Post by: Gordo on December 08, 2007, 03:27:31 am
I\'ve always been on/off with STS9. They creep back in, only to creep back out.
I missed this thread originally. Are you serious with the Chocolate Rain biz? HA!
I guess I gotta\' check out Schpongle, or whatever, never heard of em. I don\'t have any electronica junkies in my physical circle, therefore I must be pro-active when picking up nibs of info here on .info.
Chocolate Rain Dripping Schpong Fallin\' off of my ding-dong Chocolate Rain
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Post by: BennyBoomers on December 08, 2007, 11:26:31 am
That Chocolate Rain video is indeed epic.
Can\'t wait for the.......
TLATG>Overexposure>Chocolate Rain>Overexposure
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Post by: siflandollie on December 08, 2007, 06:07:03 pm
sts9 on a good night is orgasmic. sts9 on a bad night can still make me shake my booty.
shpongle is pretty dope shit. anyone on here check out glitch mob? they are pretty hot.
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Post by: jocelyn on December 08, 2007, 06:13:54 pm
Shpongle is good shit. AN excellent example of trance that doesn\'t suck. I have a set with them and Infected ******** that is pretty good.
STS9 is fun sometimes, but sometimes is a serious snoozefest.
And of course lets not forget the ser danciness of Tunak Tunak Tun.
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Post by: Gordo on December 08, 2007, 07:06:52 pm
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Post by: jocelyn on December 08, 2007, 07:40:07 pm
Yes precisely.
I love that man, he makes me very happy.
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Post by: ds673488 on December 08, 2007, 08:14:07 pm
id rather see a rock/jam band that can do trance well (The Breakfast, Umphrey\'s Mcgee) any day of the week over an all trance show, like bisco or lotus, or sts9, etc.
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Post by: Gordo on December 08, 2007, 08:15:42 pm
Same here. Puts a huge smile on my face every time.
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Post by: tyzack on December 09, 2007, 12:32:03 pm
I would like to say, in this discussion, even though I have only read the first and last pages, two things: Well, before I can say anything I need to make a qualifiing statement: -I don\'t play any instrument, or program music in any way- Now then; 1.) The statement that electronic, or programmed, music is not or is very hard to be improvisational, to me, sounds like more a critique of the langauge or tool used to produce the music than the music itself.
A second thought; whenever I think of cool new things to do with music, I always seem to think of doing them with computers. Triggers, for example, have been used on drums for decades, has anyone thought of using them with guitars. Feed back loops that are more than feed back loops, but looping over previously recorded notes to simulate multiple guitars, or something, and then the ability to layer all those loops over each other.
My other idea - and this would apeal more to the experimental/noised type audieance, is to mic a hard drive. Make different loses by variying the read/write speeds and the location on the disk at which the data is read. This, then could be modified while being played.
Wow, this post apears to ahve nothing to do with the dicussion at hand, oh well.
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Post by: davepeck on December 09, 2007, 02:06:36 pm
everyone needs to convince matt to learn chocolate rain.
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Post by: Gordo on December 09, 2007, 02:16:24 pm
Quote from: davepeck;172267
everyone needs to convince matt to learn chocolate rain.
I\'ll petition.
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Post by: sallyalli on December 09, 2007, 02:38:52 pm
HAHA that chocolate rain video makes me laugh every time!!
i\'ll sign that petition.
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Post by: jocelyn on December 09, 2007, 03:28:51 pm
No one is sick of chocolate rain yet? I mean the guy has television commercials and whatnot now. I think it has been done to death.
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Post by: davepeck on December 09, 2007, 03:30:39 pm
enter jocelyn hawe: moment killer!
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Post by: jocelyn on December 09, 2007, 03:35:44 pm
Ha ha ha sorrrrryyyyy Daaaave!
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Post by: Gordo on December 09, 2007, 03:59:46 pm
Chocolate Rain is very new to me. In fact yesterday I popped my CR cherry. I definitely haven\'t seen any commercials with the guy. But I\'d probably be supportive.
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Post by: jking on December 09, 2007, 07:50:03 pm
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Post by: davepeck on December 09, 2007, 07:59:17 pm
:lol:
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Post by: siflandollie on December 22, 2007, 01:41:32 pm
so earlier today i popped a bunch of molli and came across this http://www.ravegenerator.com/ it\'s pretty hilarious
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Post by: Gordo on December 22, 2007, 04:03:31 pm
Quote from: siflandollie;174139
so earlier today i popped a bunch of molli and came across this http://www.ravegenerator.com/ it\'s pretty hilarious
that\'s actually a real good time. i just wasted 10 minutes bobbin\' and weavin\'.
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Post by: skalnbyc on May 14, 2008, 11:48:31 pm
Likely more Zuke/Walsh content:
I just got an email about a show in SF Friday night.
The lineup is:
YOUNGER BROTHER (Live - Twisted, UK) SHPONGLE (DJ Set - Twisted, UK) PROMETHEUS (DJ Set - Twisted, UK) CONSPIRATOR (with members of THE DISCO BISCUITS)
Have any of you heard about Younger Brother or this Conspirator project (tDB keys/bass)? I don\'t know either.
edit: I didn\'t read the entire email. "Younger Brother LIVE BAND, which is fronted by Simon Posford and Benji Vaughn and their UK vocalist RU and will be backed by Marc Brownstein from the Disco Biscuits, Joe Russo from the Benevento-Russo Duo, and Tommy Hamilton of American Babies and Brothers Past."
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Post by: princesscaspian on May 15, 2008, 07:29:33 am
that sounds pretty incredible al, im jealous, you should go....
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Post by: BennyBoomers on May 15, 2008, 09:20:21 am
you should definately not miss that al
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Post by: ulee on July 30, 2009, 04:53:33 pm
been getting into dubstep lately
check out http://www.dubstep.fm
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Post by: zuke583 on July 30, 2009, 05:08:42 pm
Quote from: ulee;237200
been getting into dubstep lately
check out http://www.dubstep.fm
it\'s been getting really popular. used sparingly it can be pretty good, but i can\'t take it for too long. AC slater is actually is pretty good at sprinkling some into an electro set (at least one of his sets that i have). for the most part, i just think it\'s boring
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Post by: siflandollie on July 30, 2009, 05:17:17 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;189802
Have any of you heard about Younger Brother or this Conspirator project (tDB keys/bass)? I don\'t know either.
Conspirator is dope as hell.
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Post by: princesscaspian on July 30, 2009, 05:18:11 pm
Quote from: ulee;237200
been getting into dubstep lately
check out http://www.dubstep.fm
come with us tomorrow!!!!!!!
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Post by: zuke583 on July 30, 2009, 05:35:20 pm
Quote from: siflandollie;237207
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;189802
Have any of you heard about Younger Brother or this Conspirator project (tDB keys/bass)? I don\'t know either.
Conspirator is dope as hell.
haven\'t seen them in a while. i remember they were awesome when omen played with them.
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Post by: Igziabeher on July 30, 2009, 05:38:16 pm
Quote from: zuke583;237209
Quote from: siflandollie;237207
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;189802
Have any of you heard about Younger Brother or this Conspirator project (tDB keys/bass)? I don\'t know either.
Conspirator is dope as hell.
haven\'t seen them in a while. i remember they were awesome when omen played with them.
haven\'t seen them since they opened for UM at Lupo\'s a few years ago, but I went specifically to see Conspirator and enjoyed their set thoroughly.
if they got russo and hamilton there as well, why not toss in an electron set as well?
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Post by: princesscaspian on July 30, 2009, 05:49:50 pm
Quote from: Igziabeher;237210
Quote from: zuke583;237209
Quote from: siflandollie;237207
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;189802
Have any of you heard about Younger Brother or this Conspirator project (tDB keys/bass)? I don\'t know either.
Conspirator is dope as hell.
haven\'t seen them in a while. i remember they were awesome when omen played with them.
haven\'t seen them since they opened for UM at Lupo\'s a few years ago, but I went specifically to see Conspirator and enjoyed their set thoroughly.
if they got russo and hamilton there as well, why not toss in an electron set as well?
i saw them on halloween this past year.... minus omen... plus most of the biscuits... and it was underwhelming at best.... they NEED omen
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;189802
Likely more Zuke/Walsh content:
I just got an email about a show in SF Friday night.
The lineup is:
YOUNGER BROTHER (Live - Twisted, UK) SHPONGLE (DJ Set - Twisted, UK) PROMETHEUS (DJ Set - Twisted, UK) CONSPIRATOR (with members of THE DISCO BISCUITS)
Have any of you heard about Younger Brother or this Conspirator project (tDB keys/bass)? I don\'t know either.
edit: I didn\'t read the entire email. "Younger Brother LIVE BAND, which is fronted by Simon Posford and Benji Vaughn and their UK vocalist RU and will be backed by Marc Brownstein from the Disco Biscuits, Joe Russo from the Benevento-Russo Duo, and Tommy Hamilton of American Babies and Brothers Past."
did you ever make it to this show al? that was pretty much the lineup and camp, and pretty much the only reason i went. prometheus killed it, shpongle was amazing with Raja Ram, and Younger brother live was insanely tight but way too short. that weekend inspired me to buy tickets to see Shpongle\'s halloween album release party in London.... just gotta get a passport lol
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Post by: skalnbyc on July 30, 2009, 06:07:18 pm
Princess - for unknown reasons, I did not go to that show last year.
Probably should give myself a good kick in the pants.
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Post by: Klout on August 09, 2009, 12:44:29 am
anyone ever heard Lemon Jelly?
of the down tempo, new age, jazzy trip hop variety.
Pretty ser biz. The one album I have anyway. downloading more now. yea this is really sick.
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Post by: skalnbyc on August 09, 2009, 02:38:54 pm
Quote from: Klout;238033
anyone ever heard Lemon Jelly?
of the down tempo, new age, jazzy trip hop variety.
Pretty ser biz. The one album I have anyway. downloading more now. yea this is really sick.
I\'ve heard some tracks off lemonjelly.ky but don\'t recall exactly what my opinion was.
Check out St. Germain albums "Tourist" and "Boulevard" for some good downtempo, if you haven\'t already. Those two never get old for me.
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Post by: frolfer on August 09, 2009, 07:53:41 pm
Haven\'t heard \'Boulevard\' but \'Tourist\' is good stuff.
Not sure if its been mentioned but Greyboy has some cool albums, \'Land of the Lost\' \'Freestylin\' and \'Greybreaks\'. I think he has a couple of newer albums but I can\'t comment on those.
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Post by: skalnbyc on August 09, 2009, 08:01:42 pm
Quote from: frolfer;238069
Not sure if its been mentioned but Greyboy has some cool albums, \'Land of the Lost\' \'Freestylin\' and \'Greybreaks\'. I think he has a couple of newer albums but I can\'t comment on those.
Most of Greyboy\'s stuff is great.
I saw him open for a Dutch Nu-Funk band I like a couple months ago and was a bit disappointed with his set - pretty much played all material from his record label (Ubiquity) that I already knew or other more discovered stuff. I figured a guy like that one have some new and fresh material to wow me but it was really a lazy set given my high expectations.
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Post by: Klout on August 09, 2009, 10:22:22 pm
Al did you ever listen to the flashbulb album I have posted in numerous threads?
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Post by: skalnbyc on August 10, 2009, 12:49:48 am
Quote from: Klout;238074
Al did you ever listen to the flashbulb album I have posted in numerous threads?
Nope - suppose I should get on it one of these days.
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Post by: ulee on August 20, 2009, 01:23:37 pm
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Post by: Yoda on August 20, 2009, 01:33:34 pm
Wasn\'t AC Slater the dude from Saved By The Bell?
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Post by: Igziabeher on August 20, 2009, 01:36:48 pm
I was going down memory lane yesterday thinking about all the House DJ\'s i dug in HS.
Bad Boy Bill/ Richard Humpty Visionz DJ Skribble/ Anothony Acid Frankie Bones Paul Oakenfold
I was such a wannabe raver kid. good thing i got into phish when i did.
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Post by: dannybiscuits on August 20, 2009, 09:29:30 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;238083
Quote from: Klout;238074
Al did you ever listen to the flashbulb album I have posted in numerous threads?
Nope - suppose I should get on it one of these days.
Although you do not know me. I listened to your flashbulb and found it quite illuminating!
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Post by: Klout on August 24, 2009, 09:49:43 pm
What the verdict on Future Rock?
Anyone seen them live?
They are playing here thursday might check it out.
Myspace tracks sounds kinda generic but kinda cool too.
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Post by: dannybiscuits on August 24, 2009, 10:34:00 pm
I saw future rock in Chicago at a street fest. The set was only an hour but people were getting down. I think they are definitely generic as far as livetronica goes but they got me dancing. On a thursday I would suggest trying it out.
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Post by: Klout on August 24, 2009, 10:40:59 pm
thanks DB. think i will check it out. its right around the corner.
glad u liked the bulb.
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Post by: skalnbyc on August 28, 2009, 02:00:58 am
Might check out these local guys tomorrow night:
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Post by: dannybiscuits on August 28, 2009, 03:29:03 am
I just heard about this band called Tortured Soul. I am not sure if anyone has posted about them but they are the shit. It is a three piece band from New York. Drums, bass, and keys. The drummer is also the singer which is sick nasty considering how the vocals are so smooth and sensual. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C1h22Uz8uk Despite the way this sounds it seems as though during their live shows they get down and jam.
This link is of a remix of one of their slower songs but I could not get it out of my head once I heard it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZueG-xw_v4
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Post by: bdfreetuna on August 28, 2009, 09:52:05 am
I listened to some Grateful Dead from the early 80s last night... def leaning pretty heavy on some fresh midi gear. Sounded pretty wack for GD actually. Does that count as electronic music?
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Post by: skalnbyc on September 18, 2009, 03:15:55 pm
Went to see Telepath last night - thought they were great.
Big Gigantic opened (Dominic Lalli from The Motet\'s project) and it was pretty much garbage. Dominic is a great sax player and there were a few moments that shined when he was wailing away but most of the programmed music was terrible.
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Post by: dannybiscuits on September 18, 2009, 05:31:00 pm
Has anyone listened to the new disco biscuits songs that were released from planet anthem? I am wondering what people think about them. You and I is alright but some of those lyrics are seriously questionable and is that magner singing? I can just picture him singing the song tongue flicking towards the ladies in the front row pointing and shit. Then there is konkrete which is cool musically but they got some sort of chris gaines (garth brooks alter ego) type ranting. I am interested to hear the complete album that they have been working on forever.
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Post by: ulee on November 01, 2009, 10:18:06 pm
Does anyone know what the best sites are to download electronic music? some torrent sites or other sites with dj mixes? thanks in advance...
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Post by: ChrisF on November 01, 2009, 10:32:14 pm
Quote from: ulee;245162
Does anyone know what the best sites are to download electronic music? some torrent sites or other sites with dj mixes? thanks in advance...
if you are looking for something specific try googleing for +"ARTIST" +"ALBUM TITLE" +RAPIDSHARE.
you can find almost anything that exists by doing that. but it might come back with a lot of sketchy links with spyware or viruses in the results so be cautious of what you are clicking on or downloading
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Post by: skalnbyc on November 01, 2009, 10:39:13 pm
Quote from: ulee;245162
Does anyone know what the best sites are to download electronic music? some torrent sites or other sites with dj mixes? thanks in advance...
There are a lot of sites that cater to specific genres, like Nu-Jazz & Broken beat and have tons of streams or downloads. Have to enter some key terms that match your interests.
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Post by: tyzack on November 02, 2009, 01:57:39 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;245165
Quote from: ulee;245162
Does anyone know what the best sites are to download electronic music? some torrent sites or other sites with dj mixes? thanks in advance...
There are a lot of sites that cater to specific genres, like Nu-Jazz & Broken beat and have tons of streams or downloads. Have to enter some key terms that match your interests.
the file sharing service soul seek is about 80% electronic music...they have their own label
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Post by: skalnbyc on November 02, 2009, 03:00:12 pm
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Does anyone know what the best sites are to download electronic music? some torrent sites or other sites with dj mixes? thanks in advance...
There are a lot of sites that cater to specific genres, like Nu-Jazz & Broken beat and have tons of streams or downloads. Have to enter some key terms that match your interests.
the file sharing service soul seek is about 80% electronic music...they have their own label
Soul Seek is a great spot for downloads, although there are also legal sites that have legit downloads.
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Post by: bdfreetuna on November 02, 2009, 04:50:23 pm
I made some music the other day utilizing some electronic equipment including a Peavey Classic 30 tube amp, a Boomerang and Boss RC-20XL looper, and a 1979 eletr(on?)ic guitar...
I think it mostly sounded like some blues/rock/jazz fusion but by virtue of the equipment used surely it must be electronic music as well?
Then again, if you have to plug it in, wouldn\'t it also be electronic music?
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Post by: Vassillios on November 02, 2009, 05:38:21 pm
^ let\'s hear it
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Post by: bdfreetuna on November 02, 2009, 06:55:45 pm
Unfortunately last night\'s self-jam-session was not taped. I always try to make a point to fire up the recorder ... perhaps I will from now on. It wasn\'t until recently that I\'ve managed to get my chops up to where they were in the beginning of the summer before life got in the way and caused my strings to get rusty.
Anyway... some quasi-"electronic" music is up on the Astral Projections myspace page which is linked in my signature.
Check out "Last Breath of Jam", "Electronic Slinky", and "Nick Force v. Pearly Gates" for examples of some of our more electronically influenced instrumental fusion jams.
Live shows were a little different and mostly involved trying to shred our way through and jam the shit out of Dead / Phish / Breakfast covers and a few originals.
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Post by: inthewhitelodge on November 02, 2009, 07:24:02 pm
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I made some music the other day utilizing some electronic equipment including a Peavey Classic 30 tube amp, a Boomerang and Boss RC-20XL looper, and a 1979 eletr(on?)ic guitar...
I think it mostly sounded like some blues/rock/jazz fusion but by virtue of the equipment used surely it must be electronic music as well?
Then again, if you have to plug it in, wouldn\'t it also be electronic music?
I think we\'re referring to electronic(a), of which I\'m not exactly sure how the "a" denotes a certain style, permutation or algorithm. Tribal music (jungle style drumming) could sort of sound like electronica, in that case, with no strings attached...
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Post by: bdfreetuna on November 02, 2009, 08:30:06 pm
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I made some music the other day utilizing some electronic equipment including a Peavey Classic 30 tube amp, a Boomerang and Boss RC-20XL looper, and a 1979 eletr(on?)ic guitar...
I think it mostly sounded like some blues/rock/jazz fusion but by virtue of the equipment used surely it must be electronic music as well?
Then again, if you have to plug it in, wouldn\'t it also be electronic music?
I think we\'re referring to electronic(a), of which I\'m not exactly sure how the "a" denotes a certain style, permutation or algorithm. Tribal music (jungle style drumming) could sort of sound like electronica, in that case, with no strings attached...
Which begs the question that is all my rambling ;)
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Post by: SlimPickens on November 08, 2009, 10:35:01 pm
make your own shitty electronic music with this really freakin cool website:
http://www.hobnox.com/audiotool.1046.en.html
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Post by: NickNels on January 14, 2010, 10:36:03 am
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James Murphy says 2010 LCD Soundsystem album will be band\'s last Murphy hints to NME.COM that he\'ll be quitting touring
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LCD Soundsystem\'s James Murphy has told NME.COM that his forthcoming new album may be his last under that moniker.
In an interview that you can read in full in this week\'s issue of NME (out nationwide now), the New Yorker also admitted that the next LCD Soundsystem tour (as-yet unannounced) "should probably be the last" one. He added that in order to move on musically he needs a change, though also admitted that it\'s not the first time he\'s made such statements.
"I know I said that last time and things changed," he explained, "but I don\'t like to repeat myself."
Speaking about what he may do next, Murphy remained coy. "I don\'t like saying things like that because I realise people see them as proclamations of some sort, which is not how I feel at all," he said. "When I\'m working on [a record] it makes sense to think of it as the last you\'ll ever do because then you make it good."
Murphy did confirm that work on LCD Soundsystem\'s new material is going to plan, saying that he thinks the album is "definitely better than the other two" and promising a "wider palette of sound". The follow-up to 2007\'s \'Sound Of Silver\' is tentatively penned in for release in April, and is as-yet untitled.
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Post by: Lexington on January 14, 2010, 04:52:17 pm
while i\'ve never listened to LCDsoundsystem, i must say that i have been listening to so much electronic shit lately, its wild. there is something so hedonistic yet primal and pure about the way electronic music makes me wanna get naked and dance/fuck in public.
ser biz lovin it right now.
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Post by: Gordo on January 14, 2010, 06:30:08 pm
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:point: there is something so hedonistic yet primal and pure about the way electronic music makes me wanna get naked and dance/fuck in public.