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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: OMS on August 26, 2009, 12:14:52 pm
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http://www.thebreakfast.org/
didn\'t see this mentioned anywhere else yet. which was the show everyone was saying this release is going to be from again?
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sweeet!! love that album art. who did it?
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Yay!
oooooooh album art is amazing
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http://www.thebreakfast.org/
didn\'t see this mentioned anywhere else yet. which was the show everyone was saying this release is going to be from again?
2-28-09 @ the field I believe....
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Heard rumblings about this.
Glad to see a new album is out.
Great to see the website has new material on it.
I may be mistaken but I think Jim Cobb might have mixed this album. Maybe he can lend some more insight since this website is the red headed bastard child of the The Breakfast scene.
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so this is a live album, or studio?
cause that title could say live as in live music, or live as in to be living
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so this is a live album, or studio?
cause that title could say live as in live music, or live as in to be living
If it was a new studio album they have done a great job of hiding the new songs.
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so this is a live album, or studio?
cause that title could say live as in live music, or live as in to be living
If it was a new studio album they have done a great job of hiding the new songs.
hey hey now, dont forget about that epic studio version of living daylights
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I remember having this discussion before... It\'s def 2-28-09, Tim\'s bday show. Lot\'s of unreleased songs were played and plenty of hetty jams. psyched to get this, album art looks good
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If I remember correctly, this show was a scorcher.
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the title makes me think of miss south carolina...
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If I remember correctly, this show was a scorcher.
Sure was... should of guessed something good would come out of this show when the entire Breakfast A/V club was there in full force!
Setlist: 2009-02-28 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
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I: jam > Cut Me Some Slack, jam > Tunage, Synergy, Sundance
II: jam > May Fly Disarray, Episode 3 (Awakening), Space City Affair > jam > Metropolis
E: Gladys Pimp And Kangaroos With Me*
I defintely remember there being some debates about the setlist after the show. The last show they played in CT was at Sullys in January and many of the songs were similair some people sounded relatively annoyerd by this:
Setlist: 2009-01-31 - Sully\'s; Hartford, CT
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: jam > May Fly Disarray, Doughboy, Space City Affair > jam* > Tunage**, jam > Sleeping Beauty > Synergy^
II: Episode 3 (Awakening), Peace Frog > Gladys Pimp And Kangaroos With Me > Honey Butter
E: Taboo Or Not Taboot
Either way... the show was still pretty damn good. I remember a few times during the Field show, Jordan was gettin some feedback and he kept shooting looks of death at the sound guys. Hope whoever mastered the album was able to cover it up! I guess if they don\'t, it doesnt really matter though... it is Live As Is afterall.
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Nice! I like the artistic allusion to a Rorschach Inkblot Test. = What you see is what you get...
I
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can\'t wait to hear it since i think i missed that show. i\'m in love w/ 100% of the songs played that night.
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They should do a Radiohead "pay what you feel this album deserves" kind of thing. I would pay at least $100 for this. Been a while since we\'ve had a new Breakfast album... Moxie came out in what, 2006?
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I\'d pay $10 or $15. Maybe $20 if it was bundled with a fresh sticker or some swag.
Make it rain Vassillios ;)
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I\'d pay $10 or $15. Maybe $20 if it was bundled with a fresh sticker or some swag.
Make it rain Vassillios ;)
Just get it from Wah ;)
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Very cool! That was a fun show indeed!
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I\'d pay $10 or $15. Maybe $20 if it was bundled with a fresh sticker or some swag.
Make it rain Vassillios ;)
Just get it from Wah ;)
ooooof
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I\'ve heard this gonna download only. Form what I understand this is def 2/28 Tim\'s B-day show. Great fuckin show. I\'ve had a Fitzy recording since it came out, but I def can\'t wait to hear the fully mixed version.
Titties & Beer. :D
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We can just pay whatever the cost is, then give the guys extra gas money to make it upstate..hahaha
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We can just pay whatever the cost is, then give the guys extra gas money to make it upstate..hahaha
right...hahhahaha ! can\'t wait to hear this props to the band for hookin us up with something ser to look forward to
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Gift to the fans or part of a larger promotional push?
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leith! glad to have ya back!
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so this is a live album, or studio?
cause that title could say live as in live music, or live as in to be living
are you ser Numberz?
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Right on fellas!!!
So great to see a new album about to be dropped on the masses. Can\'t wait.
I think I have to listen to Chris\' recording on the way to work today.
Now if I could only make it to that legion of jerry show with sequoia :mad:
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Live Asses?
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This will probably be their best album ever.
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<<<<<<<<< st0ked
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<<<<<<<<< st0ked
GABE! Whats up kid? Hope things are goin well for ya. Hope to see ya soon brother. Take care.
Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.....
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I\'ve heard this gonna download only. Form what I understand this is def 2/28 Tim\'s B-day show. Great fuckin show. I\'ve had a Fitzy recording since it came out, but I def can\'t wait to hear the fully mixed version.
Titties & Beer. :D
Right on fellas!!!
So great to see a new album about to be dropped on the masses. Can\'t wait.
I think I have to listen to Chris\' recording on the way to work today.
Now if I could only make it to that legion of jerry show with sequoia :mad:
even though my recording was a soundboard matrix the album wont sound anything like it.
it will be cool to compare a fully mixed album to the raw soundboard matrix.
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This will probably be their best album ever.
yep.
I may be mistaken but I think Jim Cobb might have mixed this album. Maybe he can lend some more insight since this website is the red headed bastard child of the The Breakfast scene.
I did mix this album. I don\'t know how much I\'m supposed to say or not. It is a live album. It will include songs from 2-28-09. 5 songs, and it clocks in a hair under 70 minutes i think... have to check. I take it they haven\'t released a tracklist because they don\'t want to release a tracklist yet so i\'m afraid i\'ll have to keep my mouth shut there...
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Filler:
7/31/09 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Drunk Monk Bar
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interested to hear this. havent heard this show.
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Looking forward to this release. Listened to the show again in the car to/from work today. Excellent!!
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let no one be mistaken. this record is nothing short of stupid good.
edit: ...if i do say so myself...
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Hope this won\'t be download only, but if it has to be, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, make it flac, not shitty mp3. Nothing worse than grooving along in the car at 80 and you get a
pause as it changes to the next track. (Or else, you have to edit every song to get rid of the silence.)
Still any new product is good - I hope someone is targetting all the usual places to make sure other folks are aware of it.
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If you\'re listening to the CD in the car and you downloaded MP3s... burn it as an audio CD instead of a data CD, problem solved.
This may also be a feature of your particular CD player, as I\'ve never noticed a pause in between tracks :shrug:
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5 songs? i hope ep3 makes the cut
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sorry chip.... broke my heart too....
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sorry chip\'d on eppy 3?
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My guess for the 5 tracks:
1:Tunage
2:Synergy
3:Sundance
4:Metropolis
5:Gladys Pimp And Kangaroos With Me
Didn\'t check track lengths to see if it would fit but just my guess.....
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^^ that would work for me
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I\'d trade May Fly for Synergy
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sorry chip\'d on eppy 3?
yup...
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sorry chip\'d on eppy 3?
the story of my life
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hahaha
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sorry chip\'d on eppy 3?
the story of my life
lolzzz:inky:
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Live As Is....
Will love it as is
Theres a lot of good potential for this album
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If you\'re listening to the CD in the car and you downloaded MP3s... burn it as an audio CD instead of a data CD, problem solved.
This may also be a feature of your particular CD player, as I\'ve never noticed a pause in between tracks :shrug:
Not been about for a few days, but burning mp3s to CD as audio still puts the gaps in. Listen carefully and you will hear a split second dip. If you look at the track in a wav editor, you will see the gap the encoding process puts in.
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Is the 1 second gap really that big of a deal? Most studio albums have 1-3 seconds between songs anyways...
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It\'s the 18 minute gaps that have me worried.
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Is it true that this will be download only? The website says it will be ready on 9/12, which is the Westcott show. It would be dank to pick up a copy at the show:)
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So what\'s the deal with the album? It\'s available to dl at .org on 9/12; what\'s the cost if any?
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So what\'s the deal with the album? It\'s available to dl at .org on 9/12; what\'s the cost if any?
just wait for wah to hook it up in the download thread....
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If you\'re listening to the CD in the car and you downloaded MP3s... burn it as an audio CD instead of a data CD, problem solved.
This may also be a feature of your particular CD player, as I\'ve never noticed a pause in between tracks :shrug:
Not been about for a few days, but burning mp3s to CD as audio still puts the gaps in. Listen carefully and you will hear a split second dip. If you look at the track in a wav editor, you will see the gap the encoding process puts in.
Never had this problem but then again I\'ve been using Linux for like 8 or 9 years. Actually come to think of it I think there\'s some kind of gapless option that I used to see. These days programs like Brasero or K3B seem to compensate for this automatically.
I can definitely confirm that my mp3-burnt CD of Billy Breathes that I play in the car is totally gapless. Bliss > Billy Breathes with gaps would suck indeed :P
Solution to most computer problems: Ubuntu Linux
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So what\'s the deal with the album? It\'s available to dl at .org on 9/12; what\'s the cost if any?
just wait for wah to hook it up in the download thread....
I ain\'t that cheap that I can\'t send a couple lira my friends way...
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did anyone else buy this yet??
i was hoping to get a download link with my purchase :doh:
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did anyone else buy this yet??
i was hoping to get a download link with my purchase :doh:
yeah same here..just paid for it through paypal and now what..no link?
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too bad. im about to leave for the day and wanted to get this for the car ride
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yeah i dont know, i just bought it too, no download link...
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was gonna buy. now im gonna wait til this is all sorted out
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I am wondering the same thing...
Where/how do we download the album?
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I would like to buy physical album at Daniel Street, as well as Adrian\'s solo. Will that be possible??
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I would like to buy physical album at Daniel Street, as well as Adrian\'s solo. Will that be possible??
only time will tell......i would say most likely yes to both.......
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My guess for the 5 tracks:
1:Tunage
2:Synergy
3:Sundance
4:Metropolis
5:Gladys Pimp And Kangaroos With Me
Didn\'t check track lengths to see if it would fit but just my guess.....
Funny to see that neither Metropolis nor Gladys made the cut. Here\'s the final version. Only hope I actually get to download it sometime soon... :pout:
"Live As Is"
Tracks:
1. Cut Me Some Slack (7:27)
2. Tuneage (15:06)
3. Synergy (17:14)
4. Sundance (10:40)
5. Mayfly Disarray (15:43)
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no metropolis? FOR SHAME
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i\'m always down w/ Slack though. glad it snuck in there.
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did anyone else buy this yet??
i was hoping to get a download link with my purchase :doh:
yeah same here..just paid for it through paypal and now what..no link?
Paid earlier with paypal, had the same result, no link.
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ntihing wrong with some Slack. but i mean, the song they have been consistently crushing is def Metropolis....
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Typical.
Paid for it but no link has arrived.
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ntihing wrong with some Slack. but i mean, the song they have been consistently crushing is def Metropolis....
I dunno. Syn is in.
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Pwn\'d
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this was all a ruse to get donations. that show didn\'t even really happen/
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did anyone else buy this yet??
i was hoping to get a download link with my purchase :doh:
yeah same here..just paid for it through paypal and now what..no link?
Paid earlier with paypal, had the same result, no link.
Please stay tuned for download instructions. They should be coming shortly and I will post them immediately upon receipt.
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Email arrived with download link.
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see. no worries.
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I would like to buy physical album at Daniel Street, as well as Adrian\'s solo. Will that be possible??
There will not be any physical albums printed of Live As Is. Downloads only.
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am i doing something wrong? when i click on the home page text link (under the pic - download it directly here) i get a
Not Found
The requested URL /merch was not found on this server.
Apache/2.0.54 Server at thebreakfast.org Port 80p
when i go to the merch page and hit either of the two links next to the album cover, it just reloads the merch page.
and when i click on the album cover itself, i get
Not Found
Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn\'t here. You can search again by using this form...
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Yeah, there\'s something wrong with the site. I was able to download the zip file, though.
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ok, it seems to be working now!
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Downloading now!
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got it, listening to it, melting my face
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So I guess we\'ve officially renamed two songs: "Tuneage" and "Mayfly Disarray".
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FUCKING OUTSTANDING!!!
Blasting the fuck out this for the 3rd time in a row.
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Fuck Yeah!!!!!
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was having issues downloading the file last night, seems to be downloading now though. :thumbsup:
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just high jacked my rents internet to get this... listened partially way through cmss so far...definetly diggin it
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dude..... amazing.
well done everybody who put this together
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this is silly good.
Great job by everyone involved with this.
Everyone should hear this one.
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Love the vocal mix.
Sounds excellent.
Just amazing.
Great job guys great job.
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I\'ll probably pony up for this tomorrow when I\'m bored @ work.
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I\'ll probably pony up for this tomorrow when I\'m bored @ work.
It\'s worth it.
The production is top notch.
The Breakfast this clean and clear is truly a revelation.
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That\'s awesome to hear, my only gripes with Real Radio and Moxie Epoxy was that they sounded like they were mixed so flat. Like they made surround sound speakers sound like 1 speaker or something.
This sounds like a great team effort though I\'m definitely grabbin it tomorrow.
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this needs to get out there, people need to know this exists, how... i think ill listen to this album again
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this truly does sound excellent!!! kudos to the ears and knob twisters that made this happen!!! and i guess to the guy\'s playing the music, too... ;)
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I\'ve been trying to get this for about an hour. Twice it started up and downloaded for a while then all of a sudden it stopped. Now I can\'t even get it to start up again. Anyone else having issues?
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I\'ve been trying to get this for about an hour. Twice it started up and downloaded for a while then all of a sudden it stopped. Now I can\'t even get it to start up again. Anyone else having issues?
that happened to me when i was using google chrome. had to use internet explorer to download it
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Yes mine timed out at 18.4 mb.
I\'ve noticed a few pretty show stopping problems with the new site. Look at the difference between it in Firefox 3.5 and Internet Explorer 8. At first I visited it in Firefox... as a web developer it\'s almost laughable to use Internet Explorer regularly except to test and verify cross-browser compatibility.
Problems in Firefox:
- No background image or Breakfast logo show at all. I was wondering why until I looked at the source code.
- Pages are in a perpetual state of "loading".
Problems all around:
- The server is slow as fuck whether it means loading pages or trying to download this album (although it looks like it\'s suddenly picked up speed I think it might actually make it this time!)
30%+ of the population and growing use Firefox as their default browser. My opinion is that the new site is actually beautiful, and a look at the source code proves whoever programmed is definitely no hack.
However it\'s absolutely urgent that these issues with Firefox get resolved. I assume The Breakfast paid a pretty penny for this site, but IMO sites that aren\'t standards-compliant or at least close enough to work equally well in IE / Firefox / Chrome / Safari etc are not complete.
The Breakfast: Please demand of your programmer to fix these issues. If you were dealing with my company I would consider this my highest priority to fix right away.
If they are unable to fix this or if it doesn\'t get fixed soon, no offense but this is a little embarrasing for a web developer to see. The site is absolutely fantastic otherwise (in Internet Explorer). But yeah I could hack this source code and fix this for you, no charge of course.
Also your server is slow as hell, I would host your site for free on a wicked fast server and maintain regular updates if that\'s something you\'re interested in. You certainly have a great web site in the works but it needs to be fixed first of all, and there\'s ways I can easily think of to get more community involvement beyond simple links to Facebook / Myspace etc. How about full integration with thebreakfast.info forums for starters?
Seriously hand it over to me it\'s damn good but it\'s broken and I\'ll make it better and you\'ll never have to worry about it not being up to date. You guys should have hit me up in the 1st place I would have done this start to finish on the house. I will increase community involvement, make you more money, and get you more traffic. And use secure custom shopping cart software instead of relying on Paypal (Paypal are bastards). You read that part about me making you more money / more traffic / more community? That\'s my specialty yo. Take this as a serious offer, as it\'s a way I can really use my talents to help you guys out.[/i]
Ok my download\'s finished.... back in a bit.
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There we go. Thanks for the quick response!
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Seriously hand it over to me it\'s damn good but it\'s broken and I\'ll make it better and you\'ll never have to worry about it not being up to date. You guys should have hit me up in the 1st place I would have done this start to finish on the house. I will increase community involvement, make you more money, and get you more traffic. And use secure custom shopping cart software instead of relying on Paypal (Paypal are bastards). You read that part about me making you more money / more traffic / more community? That\'s my specialty yo. Take this as a serious offer, as it\'s a way I can really use my talents to help you guys out.[/i]
deserves repeating
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tuna- u should utilize the pm function to
thatguy
tmn8tr
chrislikesbass
or
sequia
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I did I talked to Adrian he said he\'d talk to his peeps and see what\'s up.
In the meantime if anyone is unable to download the album due to time outs or other bugs I have it uploaded to my server. I\'m in no way going to link it publicly or give it away for free... but if you paid for it and can\'t get it, hit me up.
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wrdmup gangsta. gettin direct to the source
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yea kiiid this shits ser biz. And by that I mean the new album and also this web stuff.
Good to see the Firefox / Chrome header and background image is now showing, a quick and easy fix indeed. They also fixed the javascript error that was causing "perpetually loading" phenomena. Props for quick response to these issues!
The server speed issues seem to be related to the fact that the site is actively being developed as I write this and during the times when many of you tried to download the album and had problems. Not that live site updates should slow things down for more than literally 1-2 seconds but apparently they have a different method to their madness.
I\'m not gonna front. This site is straight up ballin\' compared to what they had in the past. But from a marketing / community / money making standpoint I\'m seeing a whole lot of unrealized potential.
With a website like that and a few code tweaks, there\'s so many ways to get the community involved, sell way more shit, and straight up make it rain dollar bills for the band.
No reason why the new site shouldn\'t be fully integrated with .info too. New visitors should be welcomed as family, and the new site should be the portal through which the forums are entered. After that is created our beloved http://www.thebreakfast.info should actually have a redirect script on it to go directly to http://www.thebreakfast.org where people can log in. Why? It would greatly enhance the relevance of the main site, and get more people to become active on the forums! Increased traffic and relevance = increased activity = increased opportunity for promotion and sales.
The site is beautiful, glad they are using XHTML Transitional and apparently actively fixing the known bugs. (why anyone would upload a buggy page without testing it on several browsers first....).
Aesthetically its awesome and code-wise it\'s modern and allows plenty of room to extend the lifespan and further improve the site. However as it is, it\'s a great looking site and pretty useful. What it\'s lacking is serious marketing and community involvement .... if a beautiful web site shits in the woods, does anybody eat it? Catch my drift.
Also The Breakfast should totally own http://www.thebreakfast.COM .... a quick look at the whois lookup reveals this douchebag domain name consolidator in Belize bought the domain (and probably thousands of others) just to put ads up there and probably try to sell it. Typical. He won\'t even say his real name because this business is such weak sauce:
______________________________________________
Registration Service Provided By: CHERISHED DOMAINS
Contact: +44.8707656321
Domain Name: THEBREAKFAST.COM
Registrant:
N/A
Mr Domain Admin ()
PO BOX 28
San Perdo
Ambergris Caye,852963
BZ
Tel. +501.2261324
Creation Date: 26-Apr-1999
Expiration Date: 26-Apr-2010
Domain servers in listed order:
ns4.cherished.com
ns3.cherished.com
_______________________________________
Look at his site www.cherished.com (http://www.cherished.com/). I fucking hate these people. Solution? First, see how much he wants for it and how dick exactly he\'s trying to be. If he\'s unreasonable about it that\'s when you move on to certified letters, threats of lawsuit under your copyright, etc. What he\'s doing is legal but many companies have won battles with these fucks under copyright laws. Almost always these guys don\'t wanna do battle in court (and frankly neither do we) and usually they will either concede to a reasonable offer under this kind of pressure. This anonymous douche in Belize is probably a huge hoo haa and would give it up if he felt we weren\'t fucking around.
The fact is *everybody* types in ".com" .... or if they just type in "thebreakfast" it will go directly to ".com" ... missing out on the 1st timer domain name guessers (who are actually guessing the most logical place for it to be) is a big miss.
So... let him get away with it and lose out? Or maybe see if he\'ll let it go cheap willingly? <--- this should *at least* be done. If not, it\'s up to the band if they care about owning what should be theirs. I\'d be glad to personally threaten litigation under the name of my (ok not "my" but I\'ve got serious pull around here and I\'m basically #1 in line to run the company when the time comes...) successful advertising firm.
We don\'t fuck around when it comes to this, no reason The Breakfast should take it lying down either.
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From the US Department of State:
"Belize has fulfilled its obligation under the World Trade Organization (WTO) to implement the Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property (the TRIPS Agreement). The Belize Intellectual Property Office (BELIPO) was established to administer intellectual property rights (IPR) laws, which include copyrights, industrial designs, patents, trademarks, protection of new plant varieties, and protection of layout - designs (topographies) of integrated circuits.
Belize is a party to the Paris Convention for the Protection of Industrial Property, the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, the Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT), and the Hague Agreement Concerning the International Deposit of Industrial Designs. However, Belize has ratified neither the WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT) nor the WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty (WPPT).
Stores throughout the country continue to sell and rent pirated CDs, DVDs, and tapes. Local television stations and cable companies also continue to pirate American television network and cable channel programming with impunity.
Several importers, primarily those doing business in the Corozal Commercial Free Zone, continue to import and sell counterfeit merchandise, such as cigarettes and clothing. Under Belize\'s Copyright and Trademarks Laws, the onus to institute legal action against violators of intellectual property rights lies upon the holder of the copyright and trademark, and not upon local law enforcement officials."
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So yeah basically the best course of action in this scenario is to act real fuckin serious and take the incremental steps I described above. Not quite as easy as if he was in the USA but he\'s definitely not immune. No reason at all why we shouldn\'t see what his offer is and if it\'s bullshit then it\'s time to flex a little muscle.
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i think ill listen to this album again
best.album.review.EVER
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I would like to buy physical album at Daniel Street, as well as Adrian\'s solo. Will that be possible??
There will not be any physical albums printed of Live As Is. Downloads only.
Bummer - whatever happened to CDs? Hope the mp3s are a decent bitrate.
Am going to have to pass for a while though as I just got back off holiday to find I had been made redundant! :(
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anyone else having trouble with .org ?
trying to get to the site it loads google analytics but never fully loads the home page.
What kind of chickenshit hosting plan is it on ?
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ok so the site finally loaded.
what do i get for $10.00 ???
Am I downloading FLAC files or are they mp3\'s ?
I don\'t see anywhere on the site where it actually tells you what format etc
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yea kiiid this shits ser biz. And by that I mean the new album and also this web stuff.
Good to see the Firefox / Chrome header and background image is now showing, a quick and easy fix indeed. They also fixed the javascript error that was causing "perpetually loading" phenomena. Props for quick response to these issues!
The server speed issues seem to be related to the fact that the site is actively being developed as I write this and during the times when many of you tried to download the album and had problems. Not that live site updates should slow things down for more than literally 1-2 seconds but apparently they have a different method to their madness.
I\'m not gonna front. This site is straight up ballin\' compared to what they had in the past. But from a marketing / community / money making standpoint I\'m seeing a whole lot of unrealized potential.
With a website like that and a few code tweaks, there\'s so many ways to get the community involved, sell way more shit, and straight up make it rain dollar bills for the band.
No reason why the new site shouldn\'t be fully integrated with .info too. New visitors should be welcomed as family, and the new site should be the portal through which the forums are entered. After that is created our beloved http://www.thebreakfast.info should actually have a redirect script on it to go directly to http://www.thebreakfast.org where people can log in. Why? It would greatly enhance the relevance of the main site, and get more people to become active on the forums! Increased traffic and relevance = increased activity = increased opportunity for promotion and sales.
The site is beautiful, glad they are using XHTML Transitional and apparently actively fixing the known bugs. (why anyone would upload a buggy page without testing it on several browsers first....).
Aesthetically its awesome and code-wise it\'s modern and allows plenty of room to extend the lifespan and further improve the site. However as it is, it\'s a great looking site and pretty useful. What it\'s lacking is serious marketing and community involvement .... if a beautiful web site shits in the woods, does anybody eat it? Catch my drift.
Also The Breakfast should totally own http://www.thebreakfast.COM .... a quick look at the whois lookup reveals this douchebag domain name consolidator in Belize bought the domain (and probably thousands of others) just to put ads up there and probably try to sell it. Typical. He won\'t even say his real name because this business is such weak sauce:
______________________________________________
Registration Service Provided By: CHERISHED DOMAINS
Contact: +44.8707656321
Domain Name: THEBREAKFAST.COM
Registrant:
N/A
Mr Domain Admin ()
PO BOX 28
San Perdo
Ambergris Caye,852963
BZ
Tel. +501.2261324
Creation Date: 26-Apr-1999
Expiration Date: 26-Apr-2010
Domain servers in listed order:
ns4.cherished.com
ns3.cherished.com
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Look at his site www.cherished.com (http://www.cherished.com/). I fucking hate these people. Solution? First, see how much he wants for it and how dick exactly he\'s trying to be. If he\'s unreasonable about it that\'s when you move on to certified letters, threats of lawsuit under your copyright, etc. What he\'s doing is legal but many companies have won battles with these fucks under copyright laws. Almost always these guys don\'t wanna do battle in court (and frankly neither do we) and usually they will either concede to a reasonable offer under this kind of pressure. This anonymous douche in Belize is probably a huge hoo haa and would give it up if he felt we weren\'t fucking around.
The fact is *everybody* types in ".com" .... or if they just type in "thebreakfast" it will go directly to ".com" ... missing out on the 1st timer domain name guessers (who are actually guessing the most logical place for it to be) is a big miss.
So... let him get away with it and lose out? Or maybe see if he\'ll let it go cheap willingly? <--- this should *at least* be done. If not, it\'s up to the band if they care about owning what should be theirs. I\'d be glad to personally threaten litigation under the name of my (ok not "my" but I\'ve got serious pull around here and I\'m basically #1 in line to run the company when the time comes...) successful advertising firm.
We don\'t fuck around when it comes to this, no reason The Breakfast should take it lying down either.
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From the US Department of State:
"Belize has fulfilled its obligation under the World Trade Organization (WTO) to implement the Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property (the TRIPS Agreement). The Belize Intellectual Property Office (BELIPO) was established to administer intellectual property rights (IPR) laws, which include copyrights, industrial designs, patents, trademarks, protection of new plant varieties, and protection of layout - designs (topographies) of integrated circuits.
Belize is a party to the Paris Convention for the Protection of Industrial Property, the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, the Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT), and the Hague Agreement Concerning the International Deposit of Industrial Designs. However, Belize has ratified neither the WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT) nor the WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty (WPPT).
Stores throughout the country continue to sell and rent pirated CDs, DVDs, and tapes. Local television stations and cable companies also continue to pirate American television network and cable channel programming with impunity.
Several importers, primarily those doing business in the Corozal Commercial Free Zone, continue to import and sell counterfeit merchandise, such as cigarettes and clothing. Under Belize\'s Copyright and Trademarks Laws, the onus to institute legal action against violators of intellectual property rights lies upon the holder of the copyright and trademark, and not upon local law enforcement officials."
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So yeah basically the best course of action in this scenario is to act real fuckin serious and take the incremental steps I described above. Not quite as easy as if he was in the USA but he\'s definitely not immune. No reason at all why we shouldn\'t see what his offer is and if it\'s bullshit then it\'s time to flex a little muscle.
I have offered to host .org etc for free for years. Just as I do for .info. Not sure why they never took me up on it.
As for .com last time I looked in to it it was still owned by the kid who originally was the webmaster (Grason ??) who the guys had a falling out of. Not sure if it is just parked with the registrar or it came up for renewal recently. I had been watching ot a while ago but haven\'t thought about it in a while.
I work at an ISP so if any of you are looking for webhosting wetc let me know. FreeBSD or winblows if you need it
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i think once you get to the final stages, it finally tells you vbr mp3s. (they seem to all be over 500k)
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i think once you get to the final stages, it finally tells you vbr mp3s. (they seem to all be over 500k)
LAME
So they put all this work in to making an album had it mixed by Jim to release it in a lossy format.
Strange
Any chance a high quality download will be made available ?
Considering it would have taken all but 2 minutes to render a flac option
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Breakfast has its choice of FreeBSD, Windows Server or our fresh Mint Linux box ... good things happen when Breakfast lets A/V club make it happen... maybe the Geek Squad can help out too :D
Also if I remember the bitrate on mine was something in the mid 200\'s. Gotta download it again on my laptop to double check though.
Lossy, yes. Still sounded way better than any Breakfast album ever and that was on some shitty speakers I had at work. Actually, why aren\'t I blasting that on the surround sound right now? haha Trey + Philharmonic Divided Sky for the meantime
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Hope the press releases are ready to go.
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sounds exactly like the link i got from archive or wherever. great shit but you guys must be smokin deemsters (leith) if you think this is that unreal. dont get me wrong im stoked as fuck they got a new release and it sounds amazing. was hoping they dubbed the lyrics but obviously live as it means what it says. thanks for the release tho bfast sounds great :)
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sounds exactly like the link i got from archive or wherever. great shit but you guys must be smokin deemsters (leith) if you think this is that unreal. dont get me wrong im stoked as fuck they got a new release and it sounds amazing. was hoping they dubbed the lyrics but obviously live as it means what it says. thanks for the release tho bfast sounds great :)
so, basically, what you are saying is that I don\'t need to be downloading the link I received through PM, that I can just it off archive ?
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Breakfast has its choice of FreeBSD, Windows Server or our fresh Mint Linux box ... good things happen when Breakfast lets A/V club make it happen... maybe the Geek Squad can help out too :D
Also if I remember the bitrate on mine was something in the mid 200\'s. Gotta download it again on my laptop to double check though.
Lossy, yes. Still sounded way better than any Breakfast album ever and that was on some shitty speakers I had at work. Actually, why aren\'t I blasting that on the surround sound right now? haha Trey + Philharmonic Divided Sky for the meantime
hey tuna,
could you start a new website thread? this is the album thread.
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I would agree that a lossless download option would be nice. FLAC files, please...
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i think once you get to the final stages, it finally tells you vbr mp3s. (they seem to all be over 500k)
LAME
So they put all this work in to making an album had it mixed by Jim to release it in a lossy format.
Strange
Any chance a high quality download will be made available ?
Considering it would have taken all but 2 minutes to render a flac option
I would agree that a lossless download option would be nice. FLAC files, please...
I have 24/48 FLAC files. If anyone can just get an OK from the band, I\'ll provide a DL link to anyone that can show proof of purchase...
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cant wait to get my hands on some Live Asses....
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cant wait to get my hands on some Live Asses....
settle down, ken jr
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cant wait to get my hands on some Live Asses....
settle down, ken jr
Take it easy Ernie or I am gonna tell Ms. Veronica Vaughn that you are acting up in class....
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hey tuna,
could you start a new website thread? this is the album thread.
I ain\'t got teh mod powerz like you if you wanna move my posts rage it up. It was a relevant issue at the time of release. Just tryin to help.
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hey tuna,
could you start a new website thread? this is the album thread.
I ain\'t got teh mod powerz like you if you wanna move my posts rage it up. It was a relevant issue at the time of release. Just tryin to help.
no you fucked up BIG time tuna. what the fuck were you thinking ?? wowzers thanks a lot jim ! way to keep this raging board in order ! damn. seriously great work mods :sigh:
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Hopefully this gets straightened out ASAP! If only I had mod powers I\'d make a new thread called "tuna runs his mouth and wastes your time" and move all my posts there!
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hey tuna,
could you start a new website thread? this is the album thread.
I ain\'t got teh mod powerz like you if you wanna move my posts rage it up. It was a relevant issue at the time of release. Just tryin to help.
no you fucked up BIG time tuna. what the fuck were you thinking ?? wowzers thanks a lot jim ! way to keep this raging board in order ! damn. seriously great work mods :sigh:
gab wtf? i didn\'t say anything to you. i\'ve defended you on here before when you\'ve gotten into tiffs with people... guess i wont anymore. didnt expect that from you.... :(
first you bash my mix of the record saying it\'s no different from the recording on archive, and now you\'re chewing me out for doing the TINY bit of moderation i do on here? sorry gavin, but that\'s really not cool and i think you owe me an apology. i\'ve done nothing to elicit such nasty remarks.
tuna, post where ever you want, i was just trying to keep things tidy and organized.
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oh come on jim im just fuckin with ya. you\'re probably the nicest dude ive ever met and i really do love you dearly. i guess i\'ll stop jokin around
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introducing the according to Tuna thread.....
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but you\'re right that was dick and you didnt deserve it.
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ok, sorry thought you were serious. damn internets.
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:lol:
We all love each other. Except if you hate me I probably love you anyway. I can see how people might think I\'m dick because sometimes I straight up am... but I still love ya. Now Gavin on the other hand is like if Ghandi and Mother Therasa fucked and tought their son Gavin max love.
However love ain\'t what makes the world go \'round. It\'s the kinetic energy caused by the smashing of broken balls :D
Also I realize I have more time to waste than most people cuz I\'m stuck on the web @ work all day and way too fucking ADD to actually do my job all the time. Soary if I keep this shit poppin\' fresh y0!
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:lol:
Also I realize I have more time to waste than most people cuz I\'m stuck on the web @ work all day and way too fucking ADD to actually do my job all the time. Soary if I keep this shit poppin\' fresh y0!
THIS
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:lol:
Also I realize I have more time to waste than most people cuz I\'m stuck on the web @ work all day and way too fucking ADD to actually do my job all the time. Soary if I keep this shit poppin\' fresh y0!
THIS
same boat
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hahahaaaaaa....AsIs
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hey tuna,
could you start a new website thread? this is the album thread.
I ain\'t got teh mod powerz like you if you wanna move my posts rage it up. It was a relevant issue at the time of release. Just tryin to help.
no you fucked up BIG time tuna. what the fuck were you thinking ?? wowzers thanks a lot jim ! way to keep this raging board in order ! damn. seriously great work mods :sigh:
gab wtf? i didn\'t say anything to you. i\'ve defended you on here before when you\'ve gotten into tiffs with people... guess i wont anymore. didnt expect that from you.... :(
first you bash my mix of the record saying it\'s no different from the recording on archive, and now you\'re chewing me out for doing the TINY bit of moderation i do on here? sorry gavin, but that\'s really not cool and i think you owe me an apology. i\'ve done nothing to elicit such nasty remarks.
tuna, post where ever you want, i was just trying to keep things tidy and organized.
Can you ladies take this to PM\'s? this is the album thread :biggrin: :D j/k
I\'m waiting for Adrian\'s "Vessel" to arrive before I buy and dl "Live As Is". I kinda want to listen to both albums sequentially for the first time.
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I would love to purchase FLAC files, Mr. Jimmy.
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This is the top item in the Newswire section on the homepage of jambase.com
http://www.jambase.com/Articles/19658/The-Breakfast-Live-Album.Tour
Nice write up!
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Damn, nice write up indeed.
Now errbody go represent the B-team in the comments on jambase... don\'t get too many chances now do we :P
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This album is awesome. It\'s so nice to listen to top-notch sound quality Breakfast.
Listening to it, I kept wondering why this can\'t happen more often? I\'m really asking WHY, not complaining or anything. How do logistics as far as time and money go into mixing a live show at this high quality? Cobb, I\'m expecting answers from you obviously. Thanks!
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Hmmm, maybe its just me, but I don\'t think the album and the archive recording sound the same. The archive one is great; there is a nice balance of sbd clarity and live ambiance that make a good matrix, to me. Live As Is is more clear. The separation of instruments is sweet. Chris\' bass lines are full and clear and the vox sound nice, loud and present.
One thing I really dig that I wish made it to the album is the little jam that precedes CMSS. That groove swoops around me and lifts me high, oh so high.
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sounds exactly like the link i got from archive or wherever. great shit but you guys must be smokin deemsters (leith) if you think this is that unreal. dont get me wrong im stoked as fuck they got a new release and it sounds amazing. was hoping they dubbed the lyrics but obviously live as it means what it says. thanks for the release tho bfast sounds great :)
Of course it sounds the same to you.
You\'re so full of shit your inner ear canals are blocked.
Dude the recording on archive:
DOES NOT HAVE THE CLEAN SOUND EVIDENCED ON LIVE AS IS.
IT DOES NOT HAVE THE BALANCE OF VOCALS SO CLEAR YOU CAN HEAR WHAT IS BEING SUNG BY WHO.
IT DOES NOT HAVE ALL THE LITTLE THINGS DONE BY JORDAN BROUGHT UP IN THE MIX SO THE JAMS SOUND EVEN FULLER THAN BEFORE.
IT DOES NOT HAVE ALL THE LITTLE THINGS DONE BY ADRIAN BROUGHT UP IN THE MIX.
IT DOESN\'T HAVE THE FULL BASS LOW NOTES PUSHED A BIT FURTHER.
It\'s a great recording but not as clean and revelatory as Live As Is.
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I would agree with Leith--without all the shouting. Jim Cobb did a great job with the mix. I\'d still like some FLAC files, though...
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This album is awesome. It\'s so nice to listen to top-notch sound quality Breakfast.
Listening to it, I kept wondering why this can\'t happen more often? I\'m really asking WHY, not complaining or anything. How do logistics as far as time and money go into mixing a live show at this high quality? Cobb, I\'m expecting answers from you obviously. Thanks!
well the big issue is money. if i were to mix a live record like this for anyone else i\'d have to ask at the very least a thousand dollars for my time, maybe more. needless to say, i didn\'t ask for that from the breakfast for this record. the studio where i mixed it would normally cost a couple grand for the day, but i know the studio owner and swung a killer rate. tracking the show was apparently relatively inexpensive, but that\'s the easy part. i mean everything\'s getting mic\'d up anyway, so all you need to do is take prefader feeds from each of the tracks.
what WOULD be more feasible would be to multitrack a whole lot of shows, but only spend the money to mix the REAL gems. i hope this answered your question.
as for FLAC files, without the okay from the band, i can\'t give that out, but once they give the word, i\'d be happy to provide a DL link to anyone that can show me proof of purchase.
thanks for all the kind words, guys. i\'m really happy about how this record came out.
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Thanks for filling in the details, Jim.
I\'ll PM the boys to ask about the FLAC files--in case they don\'t see it here.
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This album is awesome. It\'s so nice to listen to top-notch sound quality Breakfast.
Listening to it, I kept wondering why this can\'t happen more often? I\'m really asking WHY, not complaining or anything. How do logistics as far as time and money go into mixing a live show at this high quality? Cobb, I\'m expecting answers from you obviously. Thanks!
well the big issue is money. if i were to mix a live record like this for anyone else i\'d have to ask at the very least a thousand dollars for my time, maybe more. needless to say, i didn\'t ask for that from the breakfast for this record. the studio where i mixed it would normally cost a couple grand for the day, but i know the studio owner and swung a killer rate. tracking the show was apparently relatively inexpensive, but that\'s the easy part. i mean everything\'s getting mic\'d up anyway, so all you need to do is take prefader feeds from each of the tracks.
what WOULD be more feasible would be to multitrack a whole lot of shows, but only spend the money to mix the REAL gems. i hope this answered your question.
as for FLAC files, without the okay from the band, i can\'t give that out, but once they give the word, i\'d be happy to provide a DL link to anyone that can show me proof of purchase.
thanks for all the kind words, guys. i\'m really happy about how this record came out.
It does answer my question. Thanks. My main reason for asking was in considering the REAL gems too, such as the epic Iron Horse HLH, MFD @ Strange Creek this year...
Come end of the year that would be sick if the sound techy guys on .info could make an Ultimate Breakfast compilation (possibly based off the Jam of the Year threads) a la the Ultimate Phish bizz.
I guess just having a fresh taste of some high quality live recordings makes me want so much more. Still love listening to live TB no matter what the level of quality (which by the way is still very high with the team we have) but this type of clarity is really something I long for.
And of course I mean doing this in the cheapest manner possible. Not looking for everything to come out AS clean as this, but at least a mix where all instruments have equal juice.
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what WOULD be more feasible would be to multitrack a whole lot of shows, but only spend the money to mix the REAL gems.
Yeah I\'ll bring my Zoom H4N rig along to a bunch of the upcoming shows. And get a bigger memory card for it and find the AC Adapter. Matt or Chris can do whatever they gotta do with it (remember it can take 2 XLR mics + 2 built in condensers... but I don\'t have XLR mics so if you want to take full advantage of it you guys are gonna need to bring those along).
Strange Creek 2009 would fit on a single CD, right? Any way to cheaply pimp out the sound of this recording (I think it sounds great already...) and make a bootleg for merch? Like if somebody\'s got one of those Lightscribe CD burners and feels like ponying up for bulk CDs and jewel cases I don\'t see how this would cost very much at all.
as for FLAC files, without the okay from the band, i can\'t give that out, but once they give the word, i\'d be happy to provide a DL link to anyone that can show me proof of purchase.
Weird, don\'t see why they wouldn\'t want it to sound as crisp as possible?
thanks for all the kind words, guys. i\'m really happy about how this record came out.
Yeah Jim, it sounds super clear, great job. Nice job making it sound fully surround soundy and all the instruments stand out real well.
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what WOULD be more feasible would be to multitrack a whole lot of shows, but only spend the money to mix the REAL gems.
Yeah I\'ll bring my Zoom H4N rig along to a bunch of the upcoming shows. And get a bigger memory card for it and find the AC Adapter. Matt or Chris can do whatever they gotta do with it (remember it can take 2 XLR mics + 2 built in condensers... but I don\'t have XLR mics so if you want to take full advantage of it you guys are gonna need to bring those along).
Strange Creek 2009 would fit on a single CD, right? Any way to cheaply pimp out the sound of this recording (I think it sounds great already...) and make a bootleg for merch? Like if somebody\'s got one of those Lightscribe CD burners and feels like ponying up for bulk CDs and jewel cases I don\'t see how this would cost very much at all.
as for FLAC files, without the okay from the band, i can\'t give that out, but once they give the word, i\'d be happy to provide a DL link to anyone that can show me proof of purchase.
Weird, don\'t see why they wouldn\'t want it to sound as crisp as possible?
thanks for all the kind words, guys. i\'m really happy about how this record came out.
Yeah Jim, it sounds super clear, great job. Nice job making it sound fully surround soundy and all the instruments stand out real well.
See I was thinking just cheap downloads. The hard materials become wasteful, but if you have a $5 download/each for like 4 or 5 Ultimate Breakfast discs, I don\'t see how they\'d lose any money. Maybe not make a lot, but not lose any through material. I could be off, not sure how all this shit works, but to a novice merchandising guy it makes sense.
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Agreed. Something like Live Phish releases.... maybe the AV crew\'s gear + my Zoom which you can plug into the soundboard or use 4 mics with, either way, they seemed to think if I got a big memory card for this unit we could get some pretty pimp recordings.
Then again I love archive.org ... maybe put a bit more touching up and multi-source mixing into the best shows that are worth charging to hear?
I dunno. I\'ll just bring my gear along and see if it actually makes the recordings sound noticeably better. I think Fitzy and Matt have been producing some stellar quality recordings lately but I assume this can only help :shrug:
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Tuna, how do you like the H4N? I want one for my birthday!
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HELL OF A F-ING JOB JIM!!!!!!!!
About f-ing time
The VR-2\'s are loving it.
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Listened to Live As Is again... so good. Chris destroys everything.
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HELL OF A F-ING JOB JIM!!!!!!!!
About f-ing time
The VR-2\'s are loving it.
holy moly, i\'d love to hear this record on some vr-2s myself! you crazy audiophile!
a small sampling of the toys i got to play with:
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3498/l57d71c5155b98eae141f81.jpg)
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Tuna, how do you like the H4N? I want one for my birthday!
I\'ve had less time to mess around with it lately than I\'d hoped. Fitzy and Matt seemed to dig it though so I\'ll take their word for it.
I want to see what kind of recordings it\'ll do with a direct-input from a Boss BR-600 with COSM effects (suppose I could just record on the BR-600 but that thing\'s too complicated :P)
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HELL OF A F-ING JOB JIM!!!!!!!!
About f-ing time
The VR-2\'s are loving it.
holy moly, i\'d love to hear this record on some vr-2s myself! you crazy audiophile!
a small sampling of the toys i got to play with:
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3498/l57d71c5155b98eae141f81.jpg)
Sweet!
Anytime you want to sit in the capt.\'s chair and crank the tunes you are welcome.
PC / Transport > COAX > Music Hall Mambo > VR-2\'s
No neighbors so we can get loud :)
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Sweet!
Anytime you want to sit in the capt.\'s chair and crank the tunes you are welcome.
PC / Transport > COAX > Music Hall Mambo > VR-2\'s
No neighbors so we can get loud :)
After that closing statement, I find myself a little scared of what the "captain\'s chair" might be.
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Sweet!
Anytime you want to sit in the capt.\'s chair and crank the tunes you are welcome.
PC / Transport > COAX > Music Hall Mambo > VR-2\'s
No neighbors so we can get loud :)
After that closing statement, I find myself a little scared of what the "captain\'s chair" might be.
Well it is really a green leather couch. no ball gags or chaps.
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:wah:
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What exactly is this thread about again?
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What exactly is this thread about again?
I don\'t know, but I\'m scared :(
I was going to post how wonderful Jim made the recording sound and give him kudos, but now I feel sorta disturbed.
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What exactly is this thread about again?
mp3 v. flac
archive v. pay for it
playback
ball gags and chaps
Did I miss anything ?
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i just feel that the jams go nowhere and one of the tunes sounds like a raq song..
other than that..
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What exactly is this thread about again?
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Thanks for filling in the details, Jim.
I\'ll PM the boys to ask about the FLAC files--in case they don\'t see it here.
as for FLAC files, without the okay from the band, i can\'t give that out, but once they give the word, i\'d be happy to provide a DL link to anyone that can show me proof of purchase.
Has anything come on these fronts?
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Tim replied back to me that he would check into it.
I\'ll even sweeten the pot and pay another $10 for the flac download. I intend to burn a CD as a gift anyway. But I sure aint burning from MP3 sources.
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Tim replied back to me that he would check into it.
I\'ll even sweeten the pot and pay another $10 for the flac download. I intend to burn a CD as a gift anyway. But I sure aint burning from MP3 sources.
I\'d say $5, but I won\'t comlain.
Same deal here; I want to burn this as a CD, and want flacs to do it from.
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If anyone burns me a CD and brings it to Sully\'s I will personally hand each member of the band $3.00.
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If anyone burns me a CD and brings it to Sully\'s I will personally hand each member of the band $3.00.
u comin to my house?
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Hoping to work it in. Both kid\'s baseball tomorrow may make it tough. After you pass out and are well rested, you should head to Sully\'s!
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anybody else have any problems downloading the files. for whatever reason there was a problem with my d/l... who do i talk to to get this resolved.
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I freaking love this Tunage. Badass.
I would love to see a flac download and would gladly pay for it but as long as we get something I am not going to complain in the least. More dank live releases!!!
Gotta go help put in the new sign at the Cornell frolf course. Have a great day!
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i guess i\'m destined to not own this. it would be so much easier to hand someone ten or fifteen bucks and get a disc back. i\'ve already spent way too much time on this and i don\'t need another hobby.
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we should get one 8 track pressed and give it to duane.
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yeah....then i could at least listen to it in my car!
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Tim replied back to me that he would check into it.
I\'ll even sweeten the pot and pay another $10 for the flac download. I intend to burn a CD as a gift anyway. But I sure aint burning from MP3 sources.
I\'d say $5, but I won\'t comlain.
Same deal here; I want to burn this as a CD, and want flacs to do it from.
didnt jimmcobb already say he would give flacs to anyone who could prove they already purchased the mp3s off .org???
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Tim replied back to me that he would check into it.
I\'ll even sweeten the pot and pay another $10 for the flac download. I intend to burn a CD as a gift anyway. But I sure aint burning from MP3 sources.
I\'d say $5, but I won\'t comlain.
Same deal here; I want to burn this as a CD, and want flacs to do it from.
didnt jimmcobb already say he would give flacs to anyone who could prove they already purchased the mp3s off .org???
I think that we are still waiting for an okay from teh band?
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i\'m still waiting for a reply on why i could dl my paid for copy of the album..... anybody want to hook me up with a copy. i have my receipt. hook it up because i get nothing from the web master.
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Tim replied back to me that he would check into it.
I\'ll even sweeten the pot and pay another $10 for the flac download. I intend to burn a CD as a gift anyway. But I sure aint burning from MP3 sources.
I\'d say $5, but I won\'t comlain.
Same deal here; I want to burn this as a CD, and want flacs to do it from.
didnt jimmcobb already say he would give flacs to anyone who could prove they already purchased the mp3s off .org???
I think that we are still waiting for an okay from teh band?
supposedly tim told gluft he would look into getting flacs. i guess now we are just going in circles here. hook it up jim cobb!
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we should get one 8 track pressed and give it to duane.
:lol:
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i\'m still waiting for a reply on why i could dl my paid for copy of the album..... anybody want to hook me up with a copy. i have my receipt. hook it up because i get nothing from the web master.
check your pm box BRAH.
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Everybody hold there jimmies...been working shit tons and haven\'t had much spare time. I will be working out the flac thing soon!
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Is this still available via download? Can\'t seem to get it.
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youhavetopayforitdummy!
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youhavetopayforitdummy!
i think mark realized that. the site is not allowing anyone to download/pay for it
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Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!
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Work it Todd!!!!!.....Whineberg.
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I just checked the site (http://thebreakfast.org/www/merch/) and was able to get through to checkout. Not sure what the problem is.
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cash rules everything around me. cream. get the money. dolla dolla bill yall.
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FLAC????...Whineberg.
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thebreakfast.com expiring in a few days...