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Breakfast Babble => Food For Thought => 2007 => Topic started by: davepeck on November 29, 2007, 06:15:34 pm
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I: jam > Puppetry, Great Big Fiery Ball In The Sky* > Hard Luck Harry > Night Of The Thumpasorus Peoples
II: Space City Affair > Rust > LDZ > jam > Wake Up In A Coma > Mooboo\'s Voodoo (Episode 2) > Wake Up In A Coma > Mooboo\'s Voodoo (Episode 2) > jam > Merge > When The Levee Breaks** > Hard Luck Harry^
E: May Fly Disarray^^
* with extended guitar intro.
** Led Zeppelin cover; first time played.
^ with \'When The Levee Breaks\' (Led Zeppelin) teases.
^^ with \'Riders On The Storm\' (The Doors) jam.
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sorry about the lack of live updates, folks. i was im-ing klout and wolfman all night, but apparently none went through. :(
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Night Of The Thumpasorus Peoples?
Merge > When The Levee Breaks* > Hard Luck Harry**
:banghead: :drool:
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Night Of The Thumpasorus Peoples?
Merge > When The Levee Breaks* > Hard Luck Harry**
:banghead: :drool:
Yeah never mind that Paul, how about ALL of this:
Wake Up In A Coma > Mooboo\'s Voodoo (Episode 2) > Wake Up In A Coma > Mooboo\'s Voodoo (Episode 2) > jam > Merge > When The Levee Breaks* > Hard Luck Harry**
:banghead::shock1:
Every single show I\'m waiting for them to play Merge and the ONE I decide to skip they play it...Brandon is going to kill me for talking him into skipping this show...I might not answer my phone all day if he calls me at work...:eek::(
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pls tell me this was recorded, if set 2 was played well
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the recording shouldn\'t even surface for any of you slackers!
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Wow this looks incredible. I wish I didn\'t live ~6 hours away.
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the recording shouldn\'t even surface for any of you slackers!
sure, we\'ll do the same for you with the nyc show recording from tonight. :duck:
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the recording shouldn\'t even surface for any of you slackers!
a-fucking-men! 11 people in the room when the music started. about 30 at the end of set 1, and MAYBE 45 total at the peak.
set 1 was insanely good, and then set 2 came along and shit all over it. unbelievable.
while the attendance was a disappointment, the show was FAR from it. folks, listen to me please. there are SIX shows left on the calendar for 2007. SIX. if you are on the fence about going to any particular show - GO. you WILL be kicking yourself afterwards if you don\'t, as many of you will be doing when you hear this show.
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the recording shouldn\'t even surface for any of you slackers!
sure, we\'ll do the same for you with the nyc show recording from tonight. :duck:
thats laughable considering more than a quarter of the 100K+ miles i put on my car are from Breakfast shows not counting countless rental cars
and to prove you even more wrong i\'m going tonight!!!!!!! and i\'m gonna drive home after........
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epic casino trip on the way home last night. epic.
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so dave, do you even work anymore? casino run on the way home from RI? What the hell time did you get in?
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thats laughable considering more than a quarter of the 100K+ miles i put on my car are from Breakfast shows not counting countless rental cars
and to prove you even more wrong i\'m going tonight!!!!!!! and i\'m gonna drive home after........
nice job robot. I got my college car at 60K and it died at 168K, mostly from pb shows, I know what it\'s like. Throw your boy greg in with ya since you\'re making the trip.
1 more hour of work>gym>nap>friends going away party>nyc! woot-woot!!! :hehehe:
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narragansett is a ghost town in late november.
too bad this gem wasn\'t dropped on more people.
a show this solid is gonna get some heavy rotation in my eardrums when the recording goes up [provided there is some sympathy for slackers [no car/license puts me in that category all too often. got lucky last night [real lucky!]].]
thank you breakfast/wheelhouse/liz for drivin\' my sorry ass/all you kind kind people.
if you are on the fence about going to any particular show - GO. you WILL be kicking yourself afterwards if you don\'t, as many of you will be doing when you hear this show.
dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo iiiiiiiittttttttt!!!!!!!
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yea, I could have made it to the show, but I would have had to leave in the middle of set 2, which with a monster like that we know wouldn\'t have happened, so I would have had to call out today which I couldn\'t afford to do. Damned either way.
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yea, I could have made it to the show, but I would have had to leave in the middle of set 2, which with a monster like that we know wouldn\'t have happened, so I would have had to call out today which I couldn\'t afford to do. Damned either way.
i hear ya..... i\'m not going i was just being an ass...........
I\'ll go to see Assembly of Dust at the Living Room tonight, pass out some promo materials for the Middle East show and call it a weekend.
it\'s definitely time to play the Living Room. the freak\'n Wheelhouse is the perfect venue in the WRONG spot. plus they don\'t even have an ad in the free arts paper (the Providence Phoenix) play the Living Room or AS220 that is all maybe URI campus hall other than that.... don\'t bother. unless your playing in there basement RI\'er don\'t go to shows.
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not that it\'s really worth mentioning, but was there a "first tube" tease at the beginning of wake up?
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not that it\'s really worth mentioning, but was there a "first tube" tease at the beginning of wake up?
it kind of sounded that way but i don\'t think it was deliberate or clear enough to pass as a tease
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twas a hint???
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I\'ve got a question... It may not be appropriate for this thread but its probably the most active one at the minute, I figured I\'d give it a shot. I\'ve been following these guys since about 99. I saw them the first time they came to my college (University of Hartford) and continued pretty intently until I began working in 2002. I had a bit of a haitus until the beginning of 06 but haven\'t stopped since then. The break was far too long and I\'d forgotten how much I had enjoyed them, but it was incredible to see how\'d they\'d grown in talent. Anyways... and now to my question.... I realize they had recently started with the new keyboardist Matt, but what has happened to some of their older songs? Have they retired some of them (ie. Super Fly Phaddy Phat, Garcian Fishbowl, Phatty Boom Batty, Frankly Po Zest, just to name a few)? Or are the slowly reintroducing them as Matt learns them? Some of those are my favorites and just wondering why I haven\'t heard them in awhile. I typically travel where ever in CT they play, getting outside of the state on week nights is a bit tough so maybe I just miss them. Anyways.... just some food for thought and discussion.
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not that it\'s really worth mentioning, but was there a "first tube" tease at the beginning of wake up?
it kind of sounded that way but i don\'t think it was deliberate or clear enough to pass as a tease
thanks,
i hate not trusting my ears, but i was sure someone else heard it. i needed at least that confirmation.
yeah, hint, maybe...
but yeah, with the quality of that show, it really is hardly worth mentioning.
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I\'ve got a question... It may not be appropriate for this thread but its probably the most active one at the minute, I figured I\'d give it a shot. I\'ve been following these guys since about 99. I saw them the first time they came to my college (University of Hartford) and continued pretty intently until I began working in 2002. I had a bit of a haitus until the beginning of 06 but haven\'t stopped since then. The break was far too long and I\'d forgotten how much I had enjoyed them, but it was incredible to see how\'d they\'d grown in talent. Anyways... and now to my question.... I realize they had recently started with the new keyboardist Matt, but what has happened to some of their older songs? Have they retired some of them (ie. Super Fly Phaddy Phat, Garcian Fishbowl, Phatty Boom Batty, Frankly Po Zest, just to name a few)? Or are the slowly reintroducing them as Matt learns them? Some of those are my favorites and just wondering why I haven\'t heard them in awhile. I typically travel where ever in CT they play, getting outside of the state on week nights is a bit tough so maybe I just miss them. Anyways.... just some food for thought and discussion.
Yeah Matt is learning the songs.
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hhaaahaahahahhahahaaaa what a freakin EPIC show!!!! Of the 99 I\'ve now seen, this is definitely up towards the top. I can honestly say I have not had that much fun at a breakfast show in a while!!
the band was incredibly tight last night - some of the best jamming i\'ve heard since matt joined up. HLH was a treat as always, sounded so much fuller than previous versions (dobz)... not a single body was stagnant during Thumpasorus - they brought the funk!
But, no doubt, second set was where it was AT. I have to admit that I have never really been a fan of Rust, but hotdamn, it was a KILLER way to start the set, great jamming, and set a fantastic tone for the rest of the night. but honestly... coma>ep2>coma>ep2 owned the night!!!!!! the crowd was absolutely LOONEY (or it may have just been me in the looney classification) but hot damn, totally emotional, arms the the air, heart-pumping rendition of a breakfast classic. a version that you just surrender to. awesome awesome awesome.
GREAT to see everyone last night !!! and may i be the first to say : WELCOME BACK JOSH f\'n DOBSON! ooooh how we have missed you. it was awesome to see the sound dude groovin at the stage instead of anxiously/obnoxiously blocking my way and screwing up the sound. your presence truly made the evening complete.
thanks to dave, mike, pitch for an awesome ride up!
i can only hope that my 100th show is as epic.... see ya\'ll at the Middle East :D
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Thanks Leith...
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what a beautiful and magical night last night! i loved hlh>thumpasaurus (so nasty!! everyone GOT DOWN with their badselves), and all of set 2 and the encore. i absolutely LOVED coma>mooboos voodoo>coma>mooboos voodoo, i felt like i was in a dream. when the levee breaks was a great cover to play- i totally approve, i\'m glad no one in the band attempted plant\'s voice haha. many thanks to jocelyn and james for picking us up in boston, and gabe and melissa for the company! great seeing everyone else too!! can\'t wait for the middle east!
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and may i be the first to say : WELCOME BACK JOSH f\'n DOBSON! ooooh how we have missed you. it was awesome to see the sound dude groovin at the stage instead of anxiously/obnoxiously blocking my way and screwing up the sound. your presence truly made the evening complete.
:lol:
so it is safe to say dobs is back on board 100% from here on out?
WONDERFUL AMAZING NEWS!
Have fun at your 100th princess!
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mind=blown
got to the wheelhouse during thumpasuarus :banghead::banghead:
but by the end of the second set I really did not care that I missed pretty much the entire first set. that shit was so tight. Animal\'s new drum set is awesome. when this goes up on archive people are gonna flip out that they missed this ser throw down of epic proportions.
great to see the bfam, as per usual, hope to see yous again soon.
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yowsers...... I don\'t even know where to begin. great fucking show, can\'t wait to hear it again. level II type shit all night long.. really glad I made it, great to see everyone.. thanks again Joc for the ride!!
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not that it\'s really worth mentioning, but was there a "first tube" tease at the beginning of wake up?
it kind of sounded that way but i don\'t think it was deliberate or clear enough to pass as a tease
thanks,
i hate not trusting my ears, but i was sure someone else heard it. i needed at least that confirmation.
yeah, hint, maybe...
but yeah, with the quality of that show, it really is hardly worth mentioning.
ya, but i also thought i heard Tim signing about wanting a shot of Jameson\'s...... so only the tapes will tell
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Best of the Matt shows I\'ve seen. The jam to open was exceptional and set the tone for a night that featured outstanding segues, risk-taking, and bust outs. Great to see everyone out and having such a fun time.
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so dave, do you even work anymore? casino run on the way home from RI? What the hell time did you get in?
what time was that 2nd post? 6:13am? that\'s when i got home. slept from 6:45-9ish, and been working since.
narragansett is a ghost town in late november.
too bad this gem wasn\'t dropped on more people.
a show this solid is gonna get some heavy rotation in my eardrums when the recording goes up [provided there is some sympathy for slackers [no car/license puts me in that category all too often. got lucky last night [real lucky!]].]
it was great to see you two, chris. sorry i missed you on the way out, but i was glad to see you two made it!
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great to hear this show rocked...and that matt had a stellar performance, cause i think hes getting better and better every show. i thought he was great at fairfield. he\'s really starting to come out of his shell with his improv work and rippin on the organ.
see everyone at toads.
and dave...i know you want us to support the band, but i think its not us thats the problem with the crowd sizes. theres really only so much a small group like the active .info community can do, and i think the folks here do a great job at coming to a ton of shows. its really the "other" people that we need to get locally to come to shows that dont travel very far distances to see the band but who will go see them if they are in town. if 50 of us from here go to EVERY show, thats still only 50 people at each show, ya know? the outsiders need to start coming more.
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so dave, do you even work anymore? casino run on the way home from RI? What the hell time did you get in?
what time was that 2nd post? 6:13am? that\'s when i got home. slept from 6:45-9ish, and been working since.
Hat\'s off too you dude. I am a hoo haa when I comes to sleep; I slept 2:30-6 and dragged through the first few hours of work today. The one thing I have to say about the breakfast is unlike noise or metal, I am generally not def after B-fast shows.
Also, I refuse to believe that I am the only person who wanted to commit acts of extreme warfare against the rhode island highway department for working on that road. I somehow managed to get back on 95 in WESTERLY...
But I might have taken a few wrong turns.
Great show.
Speaking of attendance...if they want more than 11 people at the start of the show and they want to play in rhode island, roger willaims fled massachusetts and founded a palantion about 50 miles south of Boston and named it a term which was, at the time of his flight, another name for heaven. I will grant the the city is far from that now, but it has a few good venues that would draw more people than 45.
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Narragansett is just to far out there for RI\'ers to drive to and from. Play in Prov. and things WILL be different.
i was noticing last night there was VERY little standard Piano...... great work incorporating new sounds Matt
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and dave...i know you want us to support the band, but i think its not us thats the problem with the crowd sizes. theres really only so much a small group like the active .info community can do, and i think the folks here do a great job at coming to a ton of shows. its really the "other" people that we need to get locally to come to shows that dont travel very far distances to see the band but who will go see them if they are in town. if 50 of us from here go to EVERY show, thats still only 50 people at each show, ya know? the outsiders need to start coming more.
oh no, believe me, i know. we all do our part. but i\'m just trying to lend some friendly advice to everyone and anyone who will listen.
this very thread provides evidence of our very own .info people being on the fence about going to last night\'s show, not going, and completely hating themselves for it today. it happens all the time. i\'m just trying to help.
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by the way, who did the recording for this show?
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so dave, do you even work anymore? casino run on the way home from RI? What the hell time did you get in?
what time was that 2nd post? 6:13am? that\'s when i got home. slept from 6:45-9ish, and been working since.
Hat\'s off too you dude. I am a hoo haa when I comes to sleep; I slept 2:30-6 and dragged through the first few hours of work today. The one thing I have to say about the breakfast is unlike noise or metal, I am generally not def after B-fast shows.
tyzack - who are you? there were like 3 people there i wanted to go up to and say, "are you tyzack", but i just didn\'t make it happen.
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by the way, who did the recording for this show?
fitzy and i both recorded.
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so dave, do you even work anymore? casino run on the way home from RI? What the hell time did you get in?
what time was that 2nd post? 6:13am? that\'s when i got home. slept from 6:45-9ish, and been working since.
Hat\'s off too you dude. I am a hoo haa when I comes to sleep; I slept 2:30-6 and dragged through the first few hours of work today. The one thing I have to say about the breakfast is unlike noise or metal, I am generally not def after B-fast shows.
tyzack - who are you? there were like 3 people there i wanted to go up to and say, "are you tyzack", but i just didn\'t make it happen.
I\'d be the guy who was wearing a Bruins jersey.
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damn, that was one of my options too!
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Have to be at work 6:00am Saturday morning, but have to try to see tonights show anyway after last nights show. Between Fairfield and this, The Breakfast are trying to kill me.
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monster setlist. Being broke is the pits.
mooboos eeh? If i was there i would have liked to see mooboos played by itself. Its been so long. im sure it was great with coma.
i wonder whats in store for tonight...to broke for that too.
fart.
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Great seeing everyone. Incredible show. I won\'t elaborate because my thoughts have pretty much all been expressed by everyone else already.
Despite the small crowd, it was great to see that everyone there was really listening and jamming in his/her own way. A small crowd, but a good one.
Melissa/Esther/Gabe- glad you guys came with us. Made for an even better night. Sorry my car is so messy. Also sorry about the Total Eclipse of the Heart. yikes.
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Also sorry about the Total Eclipse of the Heart. yikes.
total eclipse was great! i apologize for natasha beddingfield.
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I hate everyone who was there. Mooboo\'s and Coma are in my top 5, it would figure I would miss them because someone was afraid she\'d be tired at work today. They played Mooboo\'s>Coma>Mooboo\'s at Porter\'s one time and I was in heaven...I have since returned to earth...that would\'ve sent me back. These guys are the best. I was going to not go tonight out of shear frustration, but Dave assured me that the last shows were NOT to be missed. I guess ya can\'t win \'em all. See ya tonight. FUCK!
Maybe next time play there on a Monday...
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Good Lordy. What a setlist. Can\'t wait to hear this. I need to transfer and get my degree somewhere out East. Good Lordy.
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I, like Gfunk, arrived pretty late (during the end of Hard luck). Awesome time, really really good playing, really good sound. Doin it big nah kid yellin for doughboy with john/paul/george/ringo/mikey for the encore.
Can anyone clarify for me- i know tim was singing the hardluck chorus at the end of the show- but did they not play that part earlier, or was it a reprise of sorts?
I will concur with whoever said there was a first tube tease. definite tease, as stephengencs got all excited and mr. palms repeated it.
Adrians new drum set has him doing all sorts of sick tight fills, drum rolls are insane, and he has been absolutely on fire the last few shows i\'ve seen.
simpletwistupdon, were you at wheelhouse? and i miss all those songs as well (with a possible exception of phaddy, i see that song as a rarity, bust-out type tune nowadays), hopefully we\'ll be gettin em soon!!
Speakin of which, why hasnt love lake been played again? didn\'t they break it out in colorado?
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Can anyone clarify for me- i know tim was singing the hardluck chorus at the end of the show- but did they not play that part earlier, or was it a reprise of sorts?
definitely a reprise.. they played that part earlier.
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nice. i think i enjoy the random reprises, a la memory of a free festival at stone church (?) and beef barley chorus at wheel house two years ago at my second breakfast show-
September 15th, 2005 - Wheel House Tavern; Narragansett, RI
I: jam > Dig > Puppetry > No Glove No Love, Dimension 5 > Puppetry, No Quarter* >
Attraction To Shade Ditty > Great Big Fiery Ball In The Sky** > No Quarter
II: The Grand Scheme Of Things^ > Memory Of A Free Festival > The Vermont Song,
The Grand Scheme Of Things > See The Light^ > The Grand Scheme Of Things > Shakedown Street >
Beef Barley^^
E: Drum Solo > Peaches En Regalia
* with \'Hardcore Jollies\' (Funkadelic) jam.
** with \'Jeep On 35\' (John Scofield) and \'Norwegian Wood\' (The Beatles) teases.
^ inverted.
^^ ending only.
my god that second set was dirty. (uh, in a real good way)
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I was all about the intro SCI jukebox jam. I gave Matt a 60 second rundown on why Cheese sucks, but Kyle Hollinsgsworth is cool, and he hopped right on stage and commanded it to the next level.
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Also sorry about the Total Eclipse of the Heart. yikes.
total eclipse was great! i apologize for natasha beddingfield.
i apologize for NOT having ace of base on me. :)
jocelyn - thanks again for the ride - and to all of you for raging up front at the show.
send me the whaleshark link. :)
and - something happened during mooboos. i think you all know what i\'m talking about. it can\'t be put into words. just a big globule of energy. and i know you all felt it.
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omg, i\'ll txt u l8r j/k
H-A H-A H-A!
the Real Deal happened during MAYFLY! and I was too busy in the zone of disarray to catch the june bugs!
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Speakin of which, why hasnt love lake been played again? didn\'t they break it out in colorado?
They did play it in CO, and it ripped. They def gotta bust it out more
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The one thing I have to say about the breakfast is unlike noise or metal, I am generally not def after B-fast shows.
Just want to say after seeing maytishu (sp?) last night, I completely agree. My ears are still ringing.
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The one thing I have to say about the breakfast is unlike noise or metal, I am generally not def after B-fast shows.
Just want to say after seeing maytishu (sp?) last night, I completely agree. My ears are still ringing.
how was the crowd.... anybody do any Breakfast promo?
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The one thing I have to say about the breakfast is unlike noise or metal, I am generally not def after B-fast shows.
Just want to say after seeing maytishu (sp?) last night, I completely agree. My ears are still ringing.
yes, the breakfast is not as damaging as noise/metal shows, but the volume that breakfast shows are at is still damaging over time. invest $10-15 in a pair of etymotics http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er20.aspx. these are great cause they reduce volume without muffling the sound. you\'ll thank me in 10 years. i\'m 29 and i already have damage from all the shows i\'ve been to (i have ringing in one ear every so often)
if you want a really good deal on those plugs i\'ll post a link where you can get them really cheap when i get to work in a little while.
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potsom, that\'d be awesome. I\'ve wanted a good pair for a while but I was only doing like one show a month for a while and it didn\'t bother me. Since upping the show count I\'m feeling it. Thanks!
I wasn\'t going to go to mayflystu at $30 a ticket so I never grabbed any promo matterials. Dave shot me a text in the morning that he could get me in, I went but never printed any promo stuff. I dropped the ball. I suck. :shrug:
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there are other people who could have done SOMETHING...... thats alright, gear up for another dooze at toad\'s.......... it\'ll all be over soon enough
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there are other people who could have done SOMETHING...... thats alright, gear up for another dooze at toad\'s.......... it\'ll all be over soon enough
BRING ON THE DOOOZ! we still got a few weeks to prepare. lets not be a bunch of negative nancies. crousainwiches around.
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i\'m just starting a new thread about the earplugs.
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there are other people who could have done SOMETHING...... thats alright, gear up for another dooze at toad\'s.......... it\'ll all be over soon enough
BRING ON THE DOOOZ! we still got a few weeks to prepare. lets not be a bunch of negative nancies. crousainwiches around.
toads will be sweet, im so pumped...im bringing 2 other people who usually dont go to breakfast shows. your welcome.
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I enjoyed listening to the first set more than the second. Although the rust was very good... the Mooboos jamwas kinda of unique and quirky sounding but fell a little flat in terms of really going places I thought.
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there are other people who could have done SOMETHING...... thats alright, gear up for another dooze at toad\'s.......... it\'ll all be over soon enough
BRING ON THE DOOOZ! we still got a few weeks to prepare. lets not be a bunch of negative nancies. crousainwiches around.
toads will be sweet, im so pumped...im bringing 2 other people who usually dont go to breakfast shows. your welcome.
ahhhh i\'m just being an ass... just put me on the ignore list
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http://www.wheelhouselive.com/Videos_Music.aspx
see the Breakfast at the Wheelhouse video from last week
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BT link on bt.etree.org (http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=511534)
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and may i be the first to say : WELCOME BACK JOSH f\'n DOBSON! ooooh how we have missed you. it was awesome to see the sound dude groovin at the stage instead of anxiously/obnoxiously blocking my way and screwing up the sound. your presence truly made the evening complete.
:lol:
so it is safe to say dobs is back on board 100% from here on out?
WONDERFUL AMAZING NEWS!
Have fun at your 100th princess!
man...dobsy is the tit!! he knows how to work the board and interact with the band in a professional manner, plus he can get down to the music. overall, he\'s the best. after the show i just had to give him some kudos for his expertise...and also found out that yes, dobs is in and chad is out! :) woot! woot! :)
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http://www.wheelhouselive.com/Videos_Music.aspx
see the Breakfast at the Wheelhouse video from last week
wow this is nice man, thanks
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http://www.wheelhouselive.com/Videos_Music.aspx
see the Breakfast at the Wheelhouse video from last week
That\'s crazy that they post the entire set. Good stuff.
Awesome jam to open up the 1st set. Yet absolutely clear that Matt is not all that impressive rhythmically. Sorry but I\'m not going to just give in on this subject. He knows his shit but he\'s jerky as hell, especially in his leads. And no, I don\'t think it\'s a style thing. Still very happy he\'s in the band, but he\'s also lucky to be in this band.
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Awesome jam to open up the 1st set. Yet absolutely clear that Matt is not all that impressive rhythmically. Sorry but I\'m not going to just give in on this subject. He knows his shit but he\'s jerky as hell, especially in his leads. And no, I don\'t think it\'s a style thing. Still very happy he\'s in the band, but he\'s also lucky to be in this band.
Reality check time!
Your theory that matt has "average talent" and poor rythym is dog shit.
Just forget about it and move on.
Do you seriously think matt is lost rhythmically in the opening jam from this show?
If yes then state a specific minute mark when you consider him to be off rhythmically and I will tell you why your wrong.
I\'ll tell you why your wrong anyway.
He is a brilliant JAZZ musician.
This opening jam is a perfect example I am glad you brought it up.
During the initial build up and peak matt is on point and raging right along the whole time. Then around the 8 minute mark when the jam gets all quirky and even a little jerky (oh no!) then busts into a super styled out groove in a way like you have never heard the band play before ....He\'s not lost or off beat!
It\'s not a happy accident.
It\'s stylistic.
His playing outside the box like that is what makes that jam go the places it goes.
It\'s what MAKES that jam \'awesome\' as you yourself even admit it is.
It\'s what taken this band to the next level.
snap out of it kid0
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Did I not say in my post, "And no, I don\'t think it\'s a style thing." I still absolutely disagree with you. I finished listening to the whole first set about an hour ago and there are a ton of "ouch" moments in his rhythm. It\'s not style, it\'s that he can\'t keep up. I\'m not throwing the towel in by any means, I do realize that he is new to an incredibly gifted band and things will improve. But at the moment, yes, I think his rhythms are off quite often.
What makes the jam awesome is simply having that extra layer and freeing up Tim\'s hands to focus on guitar. They were a trio for what, a year and a half, and they themselves grew without the 4th element. It just took a fourth element to be able to display that growth and what they learned they wanted to do once their hands weren\'t tied trying to fill that empty space.
I\'ll listen again to point out specific spots...
Also, I\'m not saying that Matt is a chump on keys. I think he is good and would sound great amongst average musicians. However this is not the case.
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there is still times when he loses a groove and it takes him a while to find his way back.
yes.
but that doesn\'t mean he is an average musician with poor rhythm who cant hang.
sheesh.
lighten up man.
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Alright, I just listened to the first 6 minutes again and it\'s not even worth posting specific time frames. To me, I just think, even for a jazzy musician, he\'s a touch late on at least half of the turnarounds. It sounds like his fingers freeze for a moment and then blurt a bit tardy. And he just doesn\'t really groove, imo, when the jam is begging for a fluid run amongst his quirkiness. Dude, I don\'t think I need to wake up. Nor do I think you do. I think his presence has brought the band to the next level (and I\'m not saying any player could have) but there are many out there that could have. Sorry, just don\'t find him to be that great.
I never said he was an average musician by the way. I said he was born with average natural talent and has absolutely made the most of it, meaning he has become an above-average musician through lots and lots of practice. Which is why I\'m not trying to bash him, I actually have a lot of respect for him because of this.
Anyways, I feel pretty light on the subject. Just wanted to express my opinion. And I know that\'s all it is.
Damn I love having Dobs back on sound. Vocals especially.
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Did I not say in my post, "And no, I don\'t think it\'s a style thing." I still absolutely disagree with you. I finished listening to the whole first set about an hour ago and there are a ton of "ouch" moments in his rhythm. It\'s not style, it\'s that he can\'t keep up.
Matt is on keys brilliant. I\'m not just saying that as a fan of this band. I think his "offbeats" as you call them, are really beyond our realm and scope. Kinda like Adrian\'s beats for a newb. They can\'t keep up with his tunes. it\'s ok, just try your best, guy. someday, we\'ll all "get" your rhythm. ;)
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I think you can stick to your opinion of brilliance, and I\'ll stick to my opinion of "offbeats". I was a newb to this band once, and Adrian\'s beats were never \'beyond my realm and scope\', just like Matt\'s abilities are not \'beyond my realm and scope\'. I think Adrian in the grand scheme of drummers is absolutely top-notch where Matt, in the universe of keyboardists, is not. That\'s the difference for me. Like I said before, just wanted to express my opinion and I know that\'s all it is. I just listened to the rest of this show and I still feel the same way. The HLH jam is awesome, TO ME, unless I focus on what Matt is doing. He sounds sloppy, way out of rhythm with the flow of the jam, and actually downright annoying with his clav banging......... TO ME. I\'m not at all saying you guys should think my opinion is the truth, just as I wouldn\'t want that shit flipped on me. I know that there isn\'t and shouldn\'t be a finite truth when talking about music, especially improv. That\'s key to the beauty of it all. There\'s no x + y = z.
Let me put it this way (in the light that this \'other\' band is mediocre before having a TB member join): If Tim joined another band, I\'d listen to them without a doubt. If Adrian joined another band, I\'d be all ears. If Ron joined another band, I\'d give it a shot and probably wouldn\'t sustain interest. If Matt joined another band, I\'d completely forget about his future as a musician. Once again, glad he\'s on board, he adds that sorely needed 4th element, but as an individual musician my opinion is very indifferent-- meh, if you will. I\'m far from convinced that he\'s "the perfect fit" for The Breakfast, he\'s just simply good enough for me. Sorry if this seems arrogant, not at all my intention, just my feelings.
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I: jam > Puppetry, Great Big Fiery Ball In The Sky* > Hard Luck Harry > Night Of The Thumpasorus Peoples
II: Space City Affair > Rust > LDZ > jam > Wake Up In A Coma > Mooboo\'s Voodoo (Episode 2) > Wake Up In A Coma > Mooboo\'s Voodoo (Episode 2) > jam > Merge > When The Levee Breaks** > Hard Luck Harry^
E: May Fly Disarray^^
* with extended guitar intro.
** Led Zeppelin cover; first time played.
^ with \'When The Levee Breaks\' (Led Zeppelin) teases.
^^ with \'Riders On The Storm\' (The Doors) jam.
I just listened to this again and I think there is a "First Tube*" tease in the jam between LDZ and Wake Up In A Coma. It is roughly between 0:35 and 1:15 in the song.
*I don\'t my tubes well enough to tell if it\'s first, last, inner or just plain tube. Can someone else listen to this?
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def first tube tease....good looks !